Talk:Godric's Hollow

mentioned in quidditch through the ages

"The invention of the Golden Snitch is credited to the wizard Bowman Wright of Godric's Hollow"--Darthanakin 04:05, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Where's Godric Hollow in Book 6?

Aside from a reference in the end by Harry, I cannot find any more passing mentions. So where is the place mentioned? 09:00, 19 July 2005 George Leung

Great work, that's all I got from the books too. Zhanster 06:57, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

It's mentioned in Chapter 1 or 2 (I can't remember) of the first Book (Philolospher's / Sorcerer's Stone). 84.13.46.92 15:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The existence/location of Godric's Hollow

"On JK Rowling's official site she wrote that Godric's Hollow is a magical village like Hogsmeade. Since it has been stated that Hogsmeade is "the only entirely non-Muggle settlement in Britain," then it is safe to say that either Godric Hollow is not in Britain, or it no longer exists - possibly due to the very same Death Eater attack that killed the Potters."

It is not safe to say this. I doubt you'd find Ottery St Catchpole (the village where The Burrow is located) on a real map of Britain, but it is obviously in Britain in the HP universe. The same applies to Godric's Hollow. I'm removing this paragraph from the article. Trevor Andersen 04:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Let's employ a little logic and fix the paragraph rather than just lop it out. It is not claimed that you can find it on a map now is it? It's claimed that

1. Godric hollow is/was a magical villiage like Hogsmeade.
2. Hogsmeade is the only totally magical village in Britain.

It's uncertain from the paragraph whether Godric's hollow is meant to be totally wizarding, or whether it can be "mixed" like Ottery St Catchpole (and Ottery St Catchpole must be mixed, as Hogesmeade is the only totally wizarding village in Britain).

The only logcial conclusions are

1. If Godric's hollow exists, and is totally "wizarding", it isn't in Britain.
2. If Godric's hollow exists, and exists in Britain, it isn't totally "wizarding"
3. If Godric's hollow is/was in Britain, and is/was totally "wizarding", it no longer exists.

So if you add #2 from the list just above this line into the paragraph, it can stand.

Beowulf314159 05:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

My earlier reasoning was wrong (I misinterpreted the argument, thinking it was based on looking at real-life Britain), but the paragraph is still invalid. On Rowling's site she says "Godric’s Hollow is a village." [1]. That's it. She does not say if it is a Muggle village or a wizarding village. The first line is false, and so the entire paragraph is baseless speculation, going against the fact that every significant location has been in Britain (so why would Godric's Hollow be an exception?), and that Harry plans to go there (to the village, not to the ruin of the village). Plus, it's never stated that a Death Eater attack took place at the Potter's, we know of only Voldemort and the Potters being at the scene. I won't remove the paragraph yet, but please give me reason otherwise or I'll get rid of it tomorrow.

Trevor Andersen 08:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Huh - ok. It's it's just listed "as a village" and not compared in any way to Hogsmeade then your argument is perfectly correct - and the comparison with Hogmeade isn't valid. - Beowulf314159 16:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Location of Godrics Hollow

"As for the town's exact location, there are speculations that Godric's Hollow is somewhere in Wales (thus making Harry Potter of Welsh origin). The reason for this speculation is the fact that, when carrying baby Harry from Godric's Hollow to Little Whinging in Surrey, Rubeus Hagrid flew over Bristol - which is at the border between England and Wales."

Bristol is actually in the Northernmost part of South West England. In a direct line, North Somerset and North Devon & Northernmost Cornwall are more likely places, whilst if it had been in South Wales Hagrid would have flown over Gloucester. Given the Celtic Name, then we're more than likely looking at Cornwall.

Arawn

As the map on this page shows, Bristol is not in a direct line from Cornwall to Surrey. Also, there is nothing Celtic about the name. Godric is an Anglo-Saxon personal name and the word "hollow" is also of Old English origin, according to my dictionary. 167.7.30.194 18:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's another suggestion: Hagrid says that he and Harry flew "across the channel." Hagrid also mistakenly thinks that if Sirius had taken Harry, Sirius would have thrown Harry off the flying motorcycle as soon as they were "out ter sea." Assuming that Hagrid and Harry flew in a straight line to Little Whinging (in a London suburb) and flew over Bristol, the "channel" they crossed could be St. George's Channel. Then, Godric's Hollow (their starting point) could be in Ireland. Maybe Godric's Hollow is the Golden Vale (or is in the Golden Vale) in southwestern Ireland.

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Sorry, where did you read "accross the channel"? I could only find "hafway accross the sea" in prisoner, no mention of any channel. Anyway, I agree that it is most likely in Southern Ireland. Please let me know what you think of the following map for possible locations. Lag 13:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

In Deathly Hallows it says it is a "West Country village". There is essay at the HP lexicon which suggests that Hagrid moved Harry from Godric's Hollow to somewhere in south Wales and waited until he had to take him to privet drive. I'm sure it shouldn't take long to find.

While trying to find out where Godric's Hollow was located I came across an article that stated that JK stated it was located in Cottonbridge, England. I did a search and came up with nothing, but there was another article stating that Cotton Bridge was located in the Settlement of Halstock. The Settlement of Halstock has a street named 'Church' that does have a church on it, however it does not make sense for Hagrid's flight path and his comment about Bristol. But, it would make sense if he did go to Southern Wales before heading to Surrey.

Quotations

Here are the quotations for the references I inserted:

Book 1, Ch.1

“What they're saying,” {Professor McGonagall} pressed on, “is that last night Voldemort turned up in Godric’s Hollow. He went to find the Potters. The rumor is that Lily and James Potter are - are - that they’re - dead .” Dumbledore bowed his head. Professor McGonagall gasped.

Book 6, Ch.30

“I thought I might go back to Godric's Hollow,” Harry muttered. He had had the idea in

his head ever since the night of Dumbledore's death. “For me, it started there, all of it. I've

just got a feeling I need to go there. And I can visit my parents' graves, I'd like that.”

_└ ^VodkaJazz / _talk ^┐ 17:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

you ar assuming are you not that J K is being entirly consistant, she has not always been so in the past. If she is truely being consistent then possibly it is in ireland, but then if it is linked with godric then it seems unlikly as i don't know why and irishman around a thousand years ago would have an anglo-saxon name, but then maybe that is where the inconsitency lies

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