Talk:Gojūon
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Collation and wo (ウォ)
[edit]How do you treat modern additions (for example ウォ, wo) in collation? -EnSamulili 21:18, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Small kana are treated indifferently from large kana. ウォ would be sorted as うお. --Ptcamn 22:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
That isn't IPA. It's APA, which is IMO a lot less clear. It also presents an American bias to the information, and could disadvantage other English speakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.183.105.112 (talk) 21:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Back in 2005 it was IPA. Now it is actually Romaji, the alphabet used to Japanese with roman characters. It was never APA, which has nothing to do with Japanese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.202.102 (talk) 13:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
yi/ye/wu
[edit]Japanese and Korean wikipedias seem to have filled in all the blanks for their tables - my Japanese isn't good enough to understand what is written in ja:ヤ行イ, ja:ヤ行エ and ja:わ行う. Wonder if it is appropriate for inclusion in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.148.216 (talk) 22:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Yi and Ye are already available on the English Wikipedia under the Katakana article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.202.102 (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Merge to kana
[edit]I don't see the purpose of having a separate not-so-big article about the order of the kana syllabaries. It should be a section in the Kana article. It would be akin to having an article on the "order of the Roman alphabet" to talk about how it goes back to hieroglyphs and basically nothing else. JaimeDes (talk) 05:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Rows-columns mixed up
[edit]While there does not appear to exist a single canonical universally accepted "correct" orienation for the gojuon table , and the japanese themselves seem to figure the things out in every case from the context, for the explanation of the rows and the columns provided in the article to make sense they need to be switched around.
Contrary to what it says on the page, it's dan (段) that literally translates to 'column' or a vertical line in a table, and gyō (行) means 'row' or a horizontal line. Then the term godan (五段) makes literal direct sense as the verbs are conjugated across all 5 columns (not ranks and most certainly not rows). That is, for the the kanji used in the article to make sense, the table should be arranged vertically with aiueo as the forst row(line), kakikukeko as the second and so on, and the explanation needs to be adjusted accordingly. ~2026-11699-49 (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2026 (UTC)