Talk:Golem (Dungeons & Dragons)
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I feel this article should to turned into a list
editAt its current state, the information in this article is not very useful to anyone. Even the introductory paragraph I wrote on golems at Construct (Dungeons & Dragons) talks more about golems than this long-winded list of even the most trivial monster names and descriptions. --Agamemnon2 11:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Agree, people searching for the term 'Golem' don't care about its 40 variations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.78.88 (talk) 12:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Merging
editI can't help feeling that this ought to be merged into one or more other articles. I don't know if there's an article on golems in fantasy (I don't think there is, looking at Golem (disambiguation)), but maybe there should be, and get all of these less-than-notable golem articles into an article on the general use of Golems in fantasy, with a summary in a section at Golem. This article could incorporate a concise list of the uses of Golems in different fantasy settings. I feel that such an article would have better chances to be sourced, include sourced analysis, and be notable, maybe even make it to FA one day. The various articles we have now really don't. What do people think? SamBC(talk) 12:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- There's no Golems in Fantasy article. My suggestion would be to go source-hunting first, and try to build the new article around what we find. McJeff (talk) 12:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Publication history
editI have added a publication history section to this article as has been done to a number of other D&D articles. There have been a great many appearances of different golem types, particularly since the dawn of second edition, and I tried to capture a good chunk of that. There are probably a few dozen more that I could have listed if I wanted to be a completist, but to be honest that list could probably stand to be trimmed back instead! I leave that to others to decide... 204.153.84.10 (talk) 20:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Rewrite of this page
editOn my point of view, this page should be re-wrote around three points :
- The specific definition of the golem in Dungeons & Dragons
- The evolution of this definition from one edition to another
- The list of official golem by edition
What do you think ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Triptheridon (talk • contribs) 19:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- I agree 100% - now who's going to do the work? :) 129.33.19.254 (talk) 20:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- I will propose something (I will add a bibliography of the subject in D&D) Triptheridon (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
129.33.19.254 : You made a good job for your work on 14:18, 23 April 2012 ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Triptheridon (talk • contribs)
- Thanks, I try to be helpful. :) 129.33.19.254 (talk) 14:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Sources found during AFD
editGolem (Dungeons & Dragons) is at WP:AFD, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golem (Dungeons & Dragons) to participate.
Here are a list of references that individually or collectively may support a claim of notability. While mere mentions alone do not "demonstrate nobility" a large collection of them should make editors wonder "why would a large number of authors bother to mention this? Are they all fan-boys/girls or are they mentioning it because it is part of the cultural milieu in which they live or which they think their audience lives in? If it is the latter, that sound s like notability to me. Unfortunately, we can't read minds, it is possible that all of the authors below and others who mention golems in Dungeons and Dragons are in fact fan-boys/girls.
- Sherwin, Byron; Dee, Ivan (2004). Golems Among Us: How a Jewish Legend Can Help Us Navigate the Biotech Century. p. 44.
Golems also play a role in such popular children's games as Pokemon and Dungeons and Dragons.
- Comment: Mere mention. p. 44 snippet
- Baer, Elizabeth (2012). he Golem Redux: From Prague to Post-Holocaust Fiction. Wayne State University Press. p. 4.
Golem is also the name of a computer in Israel, a folk-punk klezmer band, a figure in the role-playing game Dungeons and Dragons, and an opera by John Casken.
- Comment: Mere mention. p. 4
- Brockman, Norbert (2011). Encyclopedia of Sacred Places, Volume 1. ABC-CLIO. p. 393.
Today, the golem figures in online gaming such as Dungeons and Dragons.
- The Ashgate Encyclopedia of Literary and Cinematic Monsters has a short bit about the creative origin of the D&D flesh golem on p. 193.
If you update the list, please add a one-line summary of changes and signature below.
- Initial list created, davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Add 2 + commentary at top. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Added Ashgate. Daranios (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)