Talk:Government of Palestine

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Criticalthinker in topic Palestinian Authority or State of Palestine

Correcting the coat of arms

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Hi, the coat of arms in this article is reversed i.e. the colour black of the flag should be on the right side (of the viewer). See here for example: http://www.mofa.pna.ps/en-us/

Let me know if you want help with providing a logo from an official sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pal mission (talkcontribs) 11:34, 20 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Move this article to disambiguation

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@WarKosign: @Rob984: @IRISZOOM: @Oncenawhile:

As it seems, this article is already a disambiguation page. My suggestion is to move this article to disambiguation, since "Palestinian Government" can relate to All-Palestine Government, Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, Palestinian National Authority etc. --Bolter21 11:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Why wouldn't you notify me as well? i'm hurt... anyways this is not a dismbig page - it is a full article. If you wish to merge it into some other article - please raise it as required.GreyShark (dibra) 18:29, 3 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
The State of Palestine doesn't administrate anything, the PNA does and it is true since 1994. There was no event that caused the 1988 PLO's SoP have controll on anything and you seem not to have problem with this until 2 January 2013 when you translated the words "The PNA changed it's name to SoP" to "The PNA was dissolved and replaced with the SoP" although every single source since then contradict it. This article is already an unordered version of a disambig article because there is 4 sentences on the PNA's government in the Palestinian Territories and an "History" section which is a perfect version of a disambig article, a list of PNA and Hamas governments and a list of "SoP" governments. It has been over a week since my "attack" on your consensus started and you still didn't bring any sources to support your consensus while continued to support your consensus. --Bolter21 18:39, 3 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Palestinian government

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Palestinian government's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "almonitor":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 12:05, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Palestinian Authority or State of Palestine

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I feel like the distinctions between the various governments/organizations could be made more clear. For instance the difference between the President of the State of Palestine and the President of the Palestinian National Authority. It seems as if the various articles treat those offices along with the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization as three different centers of power, when - if I'm reading the various functions and offices correctly - it would appear that the President of the State of Palestine is simply the formal head of state position for the PLO.

I'd recommend simply adding a section to the article on the PLO about the President of the State of Palestine. Giving it its own article greatly confuses things, and makes it sounds as if there is an associated governmental structure seperate from the PLO and PNA, when it's actually a formal office under the control of the PLO.

I understand that most of the time one person holds all or most of the head offices of the organizationa and government. But it'd really help to consolidate/merge a few of these articles. Aside from what I mentioned above, there doesn't really need to be a seperate article for the State of Palestine and the Palestinian National Authority. The latter is/will be the ultimate successor government for the former. This is all to say that when we're talking 'government' and 'state' there shouldn't be two seperate articles. The PLO is an entire other structure which is a hybrid organization/government, and it's articles stand on their own. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

PNA exists and functions. I recently saw a report on numbers of killed or injured in Gaza issued by PNA. PNA was established by Oslo accords, so dissolving it would render the accords void. Abbas specifically declared that PNA and State of Palestine are two separate entities and PNA is not going anywhere. WarKosign 09:28, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Then what does the State of Palestine article exist to do? I need it explained why we're separating the two? Is the State of Palestine what the country is called under the PLO? The way the articles are structured, now, it makes it sound as if the State of Palestine and the PNA are two different countries/states. I'm not saying to get rid of the PNA information; I'm saying that it either needs to be folded into the State of Palestine article, or it needs to be made clear that it's not a state and rather a form of government on its existing article. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:01, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
They are separate articles beucase PNA and SoP are different legal entities, at least in some cases. They just happen to be populated by more or less the same people in the same roles. WarKosign 11:55, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
PA -> Oslo (limited A, B control), SoP -> de jure state, claiming WB (incl EJ) + Gaza. PA not a state, not in ISO.Selfstudier (talk) 12:01, 26 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, this is a more concise way of getting at what I was trying to say. The PA article is set up like a state article, with an infobox and everything. The PA was certainly created to eventually become a government/state, and perhaps it will be someday. But as it stands now, it's simply an administrative organ - with few responsibilites at that - set up mostly to liase with a few particular countries that don't feel comfortable meeting directly with the PLO. I'm not really sure what the solution to this is, all I know is that the way the PA article is currently structured is a bit deceptive and more important, confusing to anyone not familiar with how things are structured. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)Reply