Talk:Graça Machel

First Lady of Two Nations

Graca Machel is on record as the only woman to be first lady of two different nations. Graca Machel quoted having asked "Why is it that the worst of everthing that is evil and inhuman is to be found in Africa?What is wrong with us Africans?" This is a question commonly posed bt those seeking to understand the glut of humantarian disasters plaguing the continent. Graca machel was appointed Minister for Education and Culture she also found time to marry Samora Machel in the same year. Graca Machel

I don't think this claim is correct. When it came up in a discussion I saw some people come up with a few counterexamples. One that springs to mind is Mary, Queen of Scots, there could be others. PatGallacher 21:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know, but Mary, Queen of Scots was a reigning Queen, not a consort, if I am not mistaken. Themalau 12:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of sixteen countries. Her mother as consort of King George VI was Queen Consort (if that's the term) of even more. It depends what you mean by 'first lady'. I'll edit the article to clarify.81.156.219.217 11:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It would seem that Eleanor of Aquitaine could make a similar claim, as she was the only person to be Queen Consort of both England and France. But, again, it is the meaning of "first lady" that matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.130.4.8 (talk) 19:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Dame ?

Is she a titicular Dame ? I see the article uses the title, and Gordon Brown's speech called her Dame Graca...but she is not a subject of Queen Elizabeth II since South Africa is a Republic....so this would be honorary Dowew 09:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The requirement for her to be a full Dame, and not just holder of an honorary DBE, is Commonwealth citizenship, and as both SA and Mozambique are in the Commonwealth, she qualifies.86.146.69.228 20:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Commonwealth citizenship alone isn't enough. The requirement is that the holder of a substantive award be a subject of the Queen.--Ibagli rnbs (Talk) 04:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Surname

Her surname seems to be Machel, not Machel-Mandela. The Elders page, the Nelson Mandela Foundation page, and the BBC all refer to her by that surname. All of the articles linked at the bottom of the current Wikipedia article also refer to her by that name. The user who added the hyphenated name, on Sept. 20, 2007, didn't leave an edit summary or a cite for the change. I'm going to change it back without adding cites because there are sufficient cites (BBC, Elders) already. Ariadne55 (talk) 15:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Former widow?

Why is she only the "former" widow of Machel? Surely she still is his widow. Tomaths (talk) 19:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Presumably because when one remarries, one is no longer a widow. Mike Hayes (talk) 18:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Positions and awards

This section needs dates. Mike Hayes (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Nelson Mandela

Could you please tell us who made Nelson Mandela status around s.a Atlegang123 (talk) 11:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)