Talk:Grand Hotel (Taipei)

"Yuanshan" Grand Hotel?

I thought the official name was Taipei Grand Hotel.--Jerry 22:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

And Heqong, please follow the new naming conventions.--Jerry 22:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Jerry has been out to attack me. See my talk page. He even changed/twisted my words on my very own talk page eluding detection. Luckily, I discovered his shrewd and uncalled for actions. I have revealed to the world what Jerry has done. Heqong 22:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

What? Yeah guys go ahead and read my comments on his talkpage and tell me what you think. Anyways back to topic: I think this page should be moved back to Taipei Grand Hotel as it is the common and official name of this hotel.--Jerry 00:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I checked the website already and it just says The Grand Hotel. We can leave it as is now. Heqong 00:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I guess that'll be alright.--Jerry 00:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Previous Requested move

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The result of the proposal was - move back to original name. Keith D (talk) 23:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I wish to move this page back to its previous title Grand Hotel (Taipei City) because The Grand Hotel should lead to the disambiguation page for Grand Hotel, which has a large number of meanings. It is not appropriate for one hotel in the world to have an article at this widely-used title. PamD (talk) 16:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Support a move to Grand Hotel (Taipei) ("City" is not needed) and a redirect of the current title as suggested in the nomination. — AjaxSmack 18:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
• Support per aboveGrey Wanderer | Talk 04:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

  Specifically support moving back to Grand Hotel (Taipei City)Grey Wanderer | Talk 08:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

• support per above. Yahel Guhan 04:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Support Mcmullen writes (talk) 22:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
• Support. Seems uncontroversial to me. When I look deeper I see that the user who performed the unilateral move that this would reverse is now indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of a banned user. This is just undoing some of the damage. Andrewa (talk) 12:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
• Support per above. feydey (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was moved to Grand Hotel (Taipei) -- Aervanath (talk) 04:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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"Taipei City" is rather awkward and is not a term normally used. I wish to move this article to "Grand Hotel (Taipei)". Readin (talk) 01:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

• Support. The "city" in the disambiguator serves no purpose. — AjaxSmack 22:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support. Taipei County is just Taipei City plus its surrounding districts, so the extra disambiguation adds nothing, the hotel is in both. Andrewa (talk) 05:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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literal translation

The article says the literal name of the Hotel when translated from Chinese is "Yuanshan Grand Hotel". I'm wondering how this translation was made. Were I to translate it, I would call it (and I admit my Chinese isn't great) "Round Mountain Big Restaurant". Specifically, "Yuanshan" is the name of a mountain that the hotel is close to, so why are we not using the literal translation of the mountain? Readin (talk) 01:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The general practice among native English speakers living in Taiwan is to not translate proper names of places, whether they be for cities, mountains, or something else. For example, I live in Da'an District of Taipei. Da'an literally translates as "Big peaceful", but nobody is going to call it the "Big Peaceful District". Likewise we have Alishan, not "Interior Mountain", Yushan, not "Jade Mountain", and Yuanshan, not "Round Mountain".--Aervanath (talk) 04:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

And we also have "Grand Hotel", not "Yuanshan Grand Hotel". In this case, the question isn't what native speakers call things. The question is what the literal translation is. "Fan dyan" is something I've seen translated as both "restaurant" and "hotel". "Da" is normally translated "big", but the meaning is similar to "grand" and in context "grand" perhaps makes more sense. But when it comes to a literal translation, I'm really wondering about "Yuanshan". Are there rules normally applied to literal translations that dictate how much should be translated? Is there a rule that says proper names within a larger literal translation should not be literally translated? Does anyone know? Readin (talk) 13:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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Notable guests

Among the notable guests of the hotel is listed a "Filippo Fontanelli". Who is/was this person? I have not found (or ever heard of) a 'famous' Filippo Fontanelli. Klod (talk) 10:21, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

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