Talk:Granola

Needs attention

Page needs attention. A weird, seemingly biased tone in there with regard to whether chewy granola "Should" be called granola, as if someone out there defines it. Sounds like portions of this article were written by a health nut.

I touched up as best I can but my writing skills are lacking.

The last paragraph about whether or not modern Granola snack foods are "healthier" or not seems to be arguing with itself as well... if there's a dispute it should really be discussed here rather than just with an antagonistic sentence on the main page.

Possible NPOV problem

There was a sentence at the end that said hippies are called "granola" "based on granola's constituency of fruits, nuts, and flakes." This seems somewhat questionable (granola is more like pellets than flakes), and probably NPOV. I would argue it has more to do with a hippie's preference toward "natural food" than that they are gay, crazy, or unreliable. --Transfinite 04:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The sentence is there at writing, and I don't see a POV issue with it currently - the quote is attributed to a specific person, and is used to highlight granola's "hippie" connotations. I would, however, like to see some sort of links or explanations to explain to a non-native speaker that "fruits, nuts, and flakes" also has a double meaning of "gay, crazy and unreliable." -- 18:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

just wanna know what makes granola different from muesli! thanks guys 138.217.222.63 01:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Is a mention of the Neil Diamond song warranted here?

Woodstock

Granola made a major appearance at the 1969 Woodstock Music and Art Festival.

What the hell does this mean? More detail needed.

inventor of granola bar

I am changing the attribution on the invention of the granola bar. Stanley Mason is a much more direct inventor and was actually involved in bringing it (and a noumber of other foods) to market. And Alton Brown agrees with me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Litch (talk • contribs) 09:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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Lassen foods - not the same?

Hi, I'm new to this, but I'm not sure that the Lassen Foods from Chico mentioned in the article is the same as the Lassen Foods grocery to which it is linked. I used to eat Lassen granola all the time as a kid, but it has not been available for some time, and the grocery chain seems to have no cereals of its own for sale. --Cynsayshi (talk) 17:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Cynsayshi

You're right, Lassen Foods is not the same as "Lassen's Health Food". See [1] for a 1971 patent on a "CEREAL TOASTING OVEN" given to "Lassen Foods, Inc. (Paradise, CA)" (near Chico). The unrelated stores hadn't been started then. Link removed. -R. S. Shaw (talk) 08:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Sanitarium Health Foods product Granola

I note that the discussion and article so far refer to the American use of the name Granola. In general it appears to be a variation on what the rest of the world terms Muesli. In Australia and New Zealand, the name is owned by Sanitarium Health Food Company, where it denotes a product that does not resemble Muesli in any way. A hard multigrain flat biscuit is produced and then ground/broken into small pieces a few millimetres in size. This product is then packaged and sold. It is used as a breakfast cereal (steamed or boiled - my family puts 1/2 cup Granola in a bowl, adds 1/2 cup boiling water, covers the bowl, and waits 10 minutes - produces a soft hot tasty cereal); also used as a base in cooking vegetarian roasts... Whether this should be a disambiguated entry, or a subtitle under this entry, is a question...Ptilinopus (talk) 23:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

"I note that the discussion and article so far refer to the American use of the name Granola. In general it appears to be a variation on what the rest of the world terms Muesli." Actually, Granola in the U.S. was invented before Muesli. So, Muesli is actually a variation of Granola. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.141.133.132 (talk) 14:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

"The name is now trademarked only in Australia" not any longer... http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/crunch-time-granola-bakery-no-cereal-offender-20120613-20aqm.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.88.20.56 (talk) 04:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Sanitarium still have the trade mark registration in Australia. They were unsuccessful in a particular trade mark infringement case because the Federal Court held that the particular use on a label did not amount to use as a trade mark (but rather as a descriptor) and therefore not infringement.[2] However, their registration is still valid and could be enforced in other circumstances where the use of the word "Granola" were used as a trade mark. —sroc (talk) 14:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Cereal Bars?

In my experience a cereal bar is different from a granola bar. A cereal bar tends to have more of a cakey texture to the outer part with some kind of fruit filling inside. Don't know why they call that a cereal bar but that's what they look like at the grocery stores I shop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.196.231 (talk) 05:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Health/nutrition issues

I fear that I may be becoming one of those people who complains about things without fixing them, but life intervenes and all, so I'll just state my complaints for now. Growing up in a very yuppie area, I was told that granola, at least as sold in stores, is actually horribly bad for you. More importantly granola bars are even worse. I recall I confirmed this latter fact by noting the presence of corn syrup in granola bars. Simply digging up the nutrition info on bars and cereals would be synth, but I'm kind of in a rush and can't even do that right now. So I'll just say that there's a much bigger issue here: the validity of the purported health benefits. I suspect that granola has been grahamcrackerized, and I'm sure there's been stuff written on it. And like I said, I don't have time for that right now, but I'm putting it on record. (The difference between bars and cereal, and the general lack of citations in the history section are different matters, but I restored all the cn tags because as it was it looked like dubious claims were sourced, and made a problematic article look like a good one.) —Quintucket (talk) 06:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Not all granolas are the same. Some come with no added sugar and instead add truvia.   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering why the granola page was missing a Health benefit section. So I added that section and cited an online article from Times 2018. However it got deleted within 24 hours (maybe it was too short and looked like an experimental edit). I can put in some time to do the research and look more into no added sugar or sweetener-alternative granola as Daniel.Cardenas mentioned. It really depends on what goes into the granola (for granola bars, they need to stick and form shape, so syrup is often used while some use dried fruits and dates instead, but ultimately the amount of sugar ends up outweighing the other nutrient benefits). Karegranola224 (talk) 15:48, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The term "Granola" in Australia

Sanitarium attempted to have their trademark legally enforced, and were unsuccessful.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/crunch-time-granola-bakery-no-cereal-offender-20120613-20aqm.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.43.232.50 (talk) 03:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Obvious vandalism

The very first line in the article currently makes reference to "bark of the rare Granola Tree". Clearly, this article is in need of some TLC from a subject matter expert... 208.185.134.1 (talk) 14:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

How is it made?

This is what I came here looking for and didn't find it.--41.232.148.2 (talk) 08:24, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

popular around the world

No, it is not. Nobody knows Granola e.g. in not English speaking European countries. The German wikipedia lists Granola only as a potato cultivar. --Thorbjoern (talk) 08:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

In German it is more popularly known as Knuspermüsli or Crunchy. Maikel (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Granola is primarily an American term, but it has become a common name in the UK during the last 20 years for crunchy sweetened oat breakfast cereals and biscuits. Previously these products were marketed with names such as 'Honey Oat Crunch'. There is a tendency for American food terms to bleed into British English for a number of reasons. --Ef80 (talk) 08:55, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Trademark and Wikidata

Hi, the Wikidata item (d:Q119203) lists Granola as a trademark of Kraft Foods. That does not mix well (haha) with the German name for Granola, "Knuspermüsli" (crunchy muesli), which obviously is not a trademark. This article has a different story about the trademark. How can we fix this? Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 09:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, can someone take a look at this? --Gnom (talk) 18:21, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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Granola bars-packaging

The article states definitively:

"...Granola bars are always individually packaged in a sealed pouch..." (emphasis is mine).

This is not entirely correct. They are also packaged two bars to a pouch. I'll update it to "...individually or two to a pouch..." if everyone agrees.

Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 18:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)theBaron0530

Granola containing no oats?

Hello, is this Granola or is wiki's definition in need of an update? Contains no oats. https://dietly.co/products/the-paleo-foods-granola-berry-almond-285gr?variant=40370036670658&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpJr76Kaq9QIVTbDtCh057AdHEAQYASABEgJrRfD_BwE Thelisteninghand (talk) 18:16, 11 January 2022 (UTC)