Talk:Grant-maintained school

Expansion request

Significant and controversial topic in UK education, but that's about as much as I know. Quick Google search showed controversy, for example, over Muslim grant-maintained schools with backing from, Cat Stevens . I would really appreciate someone taking my stub and turning it into a real article. --Cje 11:49, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

hasn't the 'grant maintaned' status now been stopped, or had it's name change? -- Joolz 18:27, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes - GM schools are now foundation schools and no longer receive funding directly from central government although they continue to have greater independence from the LEA than community schools e.g. they control their own admissions (in consultation with the LEA), employ their own staff and own their own estate. I'll amend the article accordingly/ Valiantis 14:16, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Is this basically the same as direct grant schools of the 1970's? -Mark 13:58 17th March 2006

Does not "look" right when hovering..

Is it just me or does hovering over Grant-maintained schools (as I did at Academies Act 2010) not show the ending s in bold? Seems strange, one more of the strange hovering "errors" I've seen.. I find no reason in the article itself and see "Edited 7 days ago" so I would not have suspected a web cacheing issue.. comp.arch (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

@Comp.arch: The text shown when hovering over a link is called the "tooltip". At Academies Act 2010, the link is grant-maintained schools with the "s" outside the link, this is the [[a]]b example at Help:Link#Wikilinks so since the actual link is to grant-maintained school, I wouldn't expect it to have the "s" as well. Tooltips are always unstyled: in most browsers they come from the title= attribute of the <a>...</a> element and so they cannot contain boldface, italics, or anything else, because HTML attributes can only contain plain text. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

He is probably talking about Hovercards though. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:22, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Hovercards apparently ignores what is and isn't bolded in the article. Instead it bolds each exact match to the article name. For example, Foundation school has two matches so they are both bolded. United Kingdom general election, 2010 has no exact match so nothing is bolded. The article A obviously has lots of a's. All which start a word are bolded. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, hovercards it seems (and not tooltips..?). A general broader issue is at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Hovering_over_links_doesn.27t_show_.22exact.22_target_page and I see it now A would be a problem so maybe this (narrow problem) should not be "fixed" and at least not discussed more here.. Thanks. comp.arch (talk) 12:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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Section 100 of the 1944 Education Act

Oops I was duped by a false link. I have left the comment and made a strong edit to deflect others that have followed the same route. Enjoy

Well what we had in this article is fake news. Personally, in 1963, I had to choose which of 3 Direct Grant Grammar schools to attend, having firstly passed the eleven plus, and then passed three entrance exams. I chose the nearest, it had been around since 1487 so seemed pretty stable to a eleven year old. Down the road was the other one that had been founded 1515, a bit of a 'secondary modern' in comparison- with hind sight I should have gone there.

I believe that there were founded as a means of funding the northern endowed grammar school in Section 100 of the 1944 Education Act. 'Northern' was important, as few existed in middle England, as there simply hadn't been the need to educate the yokels to the standard needed to design and manage engines and cotton mills. In 1975 an attempt was made to withdraw funding in order to make comprehensivisation work. The commons debate went into the history and politics of these schools- I has masses of statistics and detail.

• "DIRECT GRANT SCHOOLS (Hansard, 27 October 1975)". api.parliament.uk. Hansard. 27 October 1975. Retrieved 15 July 2018.

I need assistance but I will start by blanking the lede and removing dubious detail- fake news. Then I will rebuild the structure using extensive quotes from Hansard. There are many Wikipedians who write better prose and learnt about all this in the Systems of Education Module in their PGCE courses- please join in.ClemRutter (talk) 21:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)