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editI wonder what the use of these ratings is and why the largest gold mine in the world and a very large cause of controversy in Papua is rated as of 'low' importance... Bever 213.10.149.151 21:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
There is no mention of Jim Bob Moffet CEO of the largest gold mine in the world either. See www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-09-23/pols_feature.html
There seems to be some confusion in the article between the "Grasberg Mine" and other Freeport-McMoRan assets as to my knowledge the Grasberg produces Gold, Copper, and Molybdenum-- not silver. -SA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.6.150.145 (talk) 00:27, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Note, this is not the "highest open pit mine in the world" Two mines I have worked at are higher (Kumtor in Kyrgyzstan, and Refugio in Chile) Many other Chilean mines are higher than Grasburg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.201.35.202 (talk) 08:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Grasberg Ownership
editAs far as I can ascertain, Rio Tinto still owns 11.9% of Grasberg, but this is not entirely reflected in Freeport-McMoRan's disclosures:
http://www.riotinto.com/media/5157_3383.asp
http://www.fcx.com/about/history.htm
http://www.fcx.com/operations/asia.htm
POV problem in Environment section
editOur article presently states "However, the OPIC report was later publicly released [6] and exposed gross misrepresentations by Freeport", cited to a dead link at the Austin Chronicle, a free "alternative newsweekly". I have no experience with this publication, but most alternative weeklies (in my experience) aren't reliable sources, and "exposed gross misrepresentations" certainly sounds POV. This claim needs a verifiable, WP:reliable source or it should be removed. -- Pete Tillman (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Have updated the link with a working archive.org link to the original PDF (the report itself is by EnviroSearch International, not Austin Chronicle). Tomtefarbror (talk) 20:25, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Link to Google Sat photo
editWill somebody with wiki knowledge turn my link into a reasonable ref? I forgot how to do it. FX (talk) 16:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Documentary on the mine
editLink here. Good for sources. I will put it into the External links--Merbabu (talk) 10:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
This article (about the Norwegian Pension Fund blacklisting the owner(s) of the mine) states that the Rio Tinto Group owns the mine together with Freeport. I'd like to stick this in, but I'm not entirely sure how to do this and what to revise where. Any business majors around? Drmies (talk) 23:51, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Rio Tinto has a 40% stake in the mine.--kelapstick(bainuu) 05:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- It's actually not quite that simple. From Rio's website:
- Grasberg Grasberg, located in the province of Papua in Indonesia, is one of the world’s largest copper and gold mines in terms of ore reserves and production. It is owned and operated by Freeport Indonesia (PTFI), the principal and 91 per cent owned subsidiary of US based FreeportMcMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. (FCX). The Government of Indonesia owns the remaining nine per cent of PTFI. Rio Tinto has a joint venture with FCX giving us a 40 per cent share of production above specific levels until 2021, and 40 per cent of all production after 2021.
- This is not inconsistent with the way Freeport describes it on its own website:
- We own 90.64% of PT Freeport Indonesia, the principal operating subsidiary in Indonesia, including 9.36% owned through its wholly owned subsidiary, PT Indocopper Investama. The Government of Indonesia owns the remaining 9.36% of PT Freeport Indonesia.'
- Hope that helps. Bongomatic 12:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Fixing broken link to Environment Impact Report
editOne of the references is to the Indonesian Forum for Environment (Walhi)'s report on the environmental impact of the Grasberg mine. The link is entitled "Detailed 2006 report on environmental effects of mine; includes discussion of related violations of Indonesian law". That document has been moved by Walhi to a new address.
The link comes from an Indonesian language page (which also has a link to an Indonesian language version of the report). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.77.113.2 (talk) 14:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Largest?
editThe lead sentence says that Grasberg is the largest gold mine and 3rd largest copper mine in the world, but this may mean a number of different things. Possibilities: metal production rate, cumulative historic metal production, surface area, or excavated volume. Does anyone know what this sentence means? Thanks. Plazak (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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Article cleanup planned
editI just read through most of our article, in the context of news on the construction of the new Trans-Papua Highway. While it's not in bad shape, I noticed various bits needing attention. It's on my to-do list, and if you see issues too, please feel free to call them out here. Cheers, --Pete Tillman (talk) 10:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- How tall were the Grasberg and Ertsberg mountain peaks?
- 203.164.254.118 (talk) 01:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)