Talk:Gravesham

Rewrite

I am trying to write this as I have done for the Dartford (borough) article, following the same pattern Peter Shearan (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How is Gravesham pronounced? is it /grævɜʃəm/ rhyming with Faversham, or is it /greɪvzhæm/ graves-ham, or something else. Carlwev (talk) 12:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

It's /ˈɡreɪvʃəm/.Sdoerr (talk) 15:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 23 March 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus. See no general agreement below to move or not move this article title as requested. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors may strengthen their arguments and try again in a few months to rename this article. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed.  ^put'r there  19:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Gravesham → Borough of Gravesham – Per WP:NATURAL and WP:COMMONNAME the district is usually called "Gravesham District" or "Borough of Gravesham" in a generic context even though "Gravesham" is the preferred label by the OS, presumably when its clear from the context that you're referring to the district. The district is named after Gravesend of which "Gravesham" was apparently its old name. Views [[1]] show that the constituency gets nearly half of the views. Gravesham should become a DAB page. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

• Gravesham as a name for Gravesend is obscure; it may have been recorded inaccurately, and names used more recently than the Domesday Book rarely have redirects. There's the constituency, but there seems to be a naming convention to have the town or district as primary and the constituency disambiguated despite having a similar number of page views. Peter James (talk) 18:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

  But even though the NC for districts doesn't require the addition of "District" or "Borough" its still common use and many require that anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

• I don't think it is common use, any more than for Trafford or South Ribble; visionofbritain always adds the unit type (never "Borough", only "UA" for unitary authorities and the Isles of Scilly, "District" for all other districts). Peter James (talk) 23:18, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
  • I'd say its also common usage for those (see Commons:Category:Metropolitan Borough of Trafford and Commons:Category:Borough of South Ribble) but indeed "Gravesham District" would be the appropriate title for this and the other non-metropolitan boroughs per that and the OS's alternative name if we did the same with the other districts. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. Doesn't seem like there's a pressing need to do this, and I can't imagine we'd stop having a redirect from here even if the move were to go ahead.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Not sufficient evidence that Borough of Gravesham is WP:COMMONNAMEshowing one source for and one against. WP:NATURAL would apply if it wasn't for the precedent of having district as primary mentioned by Peter James. The current name is also more WP:CONCISE than the suggested name. Trialpears (talk) 21:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

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