Talk:Great Kurultáj

Translating the Hungarian Article??????

the Hungarian Article for Kurultaj is Much longer and more detailed. perhaps translating it might not be bad. just and idea....

Not really. The Hungarian article is very poor. The first thing is to know about this event that this is event is only some years old and not widely recognized. In Hungary there is a subculture who hold alternative theories (compared to the academic) about the origin of the Hungarians, and this event is held by this subculture. This subculture is also heavily overlapping with Hungarian far-right movements. The second is that the Hungarian article reflects their views. 80.254.148.123 (talk) 10:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Article for deletion

Hello, this article needs to stay. How does it exactly fit the deletion policies of Wikipedia? It confirms to many standards. -Dominator1453 (talk) 10:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Participating states (46)

This competition is held between regions that claim to be Turanian. This is based on the Altaic languages hypothesis. The Altaic language hypothesis, however, has been widely rejected. However, it is useful to categorize to determine on what basis countries and regions participate. Determines why presence or absence. In addition, many corrections have been made to the end of the article and the titles of the countries with the states have been corrected correctly. Do not delete it for no reason. There is no reason to delete the category.Lauua Hu (talk) 10:03, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Do you have any sources to back up your claims? The Banner talk 10:22, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

yes, Altaic languages: Altaic (/ælˈteɪ.ɪk/) is a Sprachbund (i.e. a linguistic area) or proposed language family that would include the Turkic, Mongolian and Tungusic language families and possibly also the Japonic and Koreanic languages.[1]:73 Speakers of these languages are currently scattered over most of Asia north of 35 °N and in some eastern parts of Europe, extending in longitude from Turkey to Japan.[2] The group is named after the Altai mountain range in the center of Asia. The hypothetical language family has long been rejected by most comparative linguists,[1] but still has some supporters.[3][4][5][6][7]

Subdivisions

   Turkic
   Mongolic
   Tungusic
   Koreanic (sometimes included)
   Japonic (sometimes included)

and Turanism.

Lauua Hu (talk) 10:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia can not act as a source for Wikipedia. Beside that, I do not see any reason why there would be a language divide at Great Kurultáj. As I see it, that langiage divide is invented by you, with no proper sourcing to back you up. The Banner talk 10:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

In this event, 5 language groups of Turanian tribes have been invited. For example, why not invite Ukraine or Romania? These are invited based on Turanian ethnicities. The articles I linked to have their own independent source.Lauua Hu (talk) 11:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Treaty of Trianon - Turkic Council : With the defeat of Hungary in World War I, they lost a large part of their country. While they are not Turks, they became members of the Turkish Council. In recent years, Hungarian authorities have sought to revive the legacy of Attila and the Huns and promote pan-Turanism. This sporting event is in the same direction. Therefore, the existence of a language classification clearly shows the goals of this event. If you search, you will find out the reason for inviting these relatives. Some of them are Hungarians who seceded from Hungary during World War I. Or the Hazaras are invited because they are genetically Mongol but linguistically neither Turkish nor Ural.Lauua Hu (talk) 12:07, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I still see no sources that back up your claims. Just more statements. The Banner talk 12:20, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

What source are you looking for right now? I only categorized the participating areas by language.

please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research

Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is obvious, correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age are some examples of routine calculations. See also Category:Conversion templates.

If you want language classification resources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungusic_languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolic_languages

Numerous sources are mentioned in these articles.

Lauua Hu (talk) 13:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Mention other sources if you can, and add sources to the article if you can. I do not think it is wrong to categorize several areas of work. For example, is there any doubt that Hungary is located in Europe? The issue seems very obvious. Thank you for your help Lauua Hu (talk) 13:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

As I said before, Wikipedia can not be a source for Wikipedia. So the list above is useless. Are there any independent sources about this language divide? Does the Great Kurultáj itself have any info on it? You are talking loads about language, but you fail to prove your point or why this language divide is of any importance the the event itself. The Banner talk 13:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, The Banner has right. Moreover, Hungary is not member of the Turkic Council and does not promote Pan-Turanism. No consensus for these changes.(KIENGIR (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2020 (UTC))