Talk:Great River Road

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Page 212 of [1] sort of shows the Mississippi routing. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 01:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

US and Canadian Great River Roads

The article seems to suggest that the Great River Road follows the course of the Mississippi, and indeed all the states listed to border the Mississippi. Yet Ontario is also listed there, a province that does not have the Mississippi in it, as well the route mentioned in Ontario does not seem to connect to any of the American portion. I strongly suspect that the Canadian one is a different road entirely.

I have two suggestions, either separate the Ontario (and Manitoba) mention(s) and put them in antoher section, or create an entirely new article for them (something like Great River Road (Ontario) or Great River Road (Canada).

Finally, I do live in Manitoba, I'll take a notice about the Manitoba signing next time I have a chance to. --Canuckguy 12:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

from Talk:Routing of the Great River Road

This should probably go from south to north, since the river mileposts go that way. --NE2 20:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Sources needed

I started writing about Minnesota, but couldn't find enough information online. Someone with the printed maps should follow along with the Mn/DOT county maps and correct the description. --NE2 20:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Never mind; I found directions at [2]. --NE2 11:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

New shield style?

Is [3] a new style or just a one-off? --NE2 21:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Seems to be a statewide standard for Tennessee, but no other state. --NE2 05:51, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Status of Minnesota signage

Google Street View photos available as of June 2014 show the following turns to be signed, either with signage at the turn in at least one direction or reassurance directly after in both directions:

• CR 42 / MN 55
• MN 55 / US 52
• US 52 / CR 56
• CR 56 / I-494 (only reassurance on CR 56 at I-494 and trailblazer on the ramp from I-494 west; nothing pointing northbound traffic onto I-494 east)
• don't see any signs at I-494 / US 61
• US 61 / Warner Road
• Shepard Road / I-35E
• I-35E / MN 13
• MN 13 / MN 55
• MN 55 / CR 46 (46th Street)
• don't see any signs for the route between CR 46 and West River Parkway
• West River Road / CR 66 (Broadway Street)
• CR 66 / CR 23 (Marshall Street)
• CR 23 / I-694
• all I see at I-694 / MN 252 is reassurance on MN 252 north, but it was under construction
• MN 252 / Brookdale Drive
• Brookdale Drive / West River Road
• 97th Avenue / Russell Avenue
• no signs at West River Road / CR 12 (Noble Parkway), but that was recently reconfigured to make the GRR no longer straight
• I don't see any signs at US 169 / CR 12 (becomes CR 42)
• CR 42 / MN 101
• (MN 101 / CR 39 was under construction)
• CR 39 / CR 75
• CR 75 / CR 7 (Clearwater Road)
• no signs at 2nd Street North / CR 33 (bridge was recently moved; directions reference the old bridge)
• CR 33 / CR 29 (becomes CR 133)
• CR 133 / CR 78
• CR 78 / CR 1 (becomes CR 21)
• CR 21 / CR 25 (becomes CR 52)
• CR 52 / MN 27
• MN 27 / CR 213 (Paul Larson Memorial Drive)
• CR 213 / MN 115
• MN 115 / MN 371
• Signage is horrible in Brainerd (as of 2009, when the Goog was there). Between southbound reassurance on MN 371 at Crow Wing State Park and reassurance on CR 3 at CR 49 north of Brainerd, I can only locate two signs: a standalone shield at the north end of MN 25, and a sign pointing left from East River Road south onto College Drive east (which is no longer a legal turn). Even the apparent current routing (directions, 2010 city meeting agenda, p. 16) makes a different illegal turn at this intersection.
• CR 3 / CR 19
• CR 19 / CR 11
• CR 11 / MN 6
• no signs at MN 6 / MN 210 in 2009
• MN 210 / CR 1
• (The Goog hasn't visited CR 1 / CR 21)
• CR 21 / US 169
• US 169 / CR 10 (becomes CR 3)
• CR 3 / 7th Avenue
• 7th Avenue / 8th Street (becomes CR 23 at US 169)
• CR 23 / CR 76
• CR 76 / CR 63
• CR 63 / MN 6
• MN 6 / CR 28 (becomes CR 65)
• CR 65 / CR 74
• CR 74 / CR 3 (becomes CR 18)
• CR 18 / US 2
• US 2 / CR 39
• CR 39 / MN 46
• MN 46 / CR 9
• CR 9 / US 2
• US 2 / CR 91
• CR 91 / CR 10 (becomes CR 39)
• CR 39 / CR 12
• CR 12 / CR 33
• CR 33 / CR 8
• CR 8 / CR 27
• CR 27 / CR 12
• CR 12 / 1st Street
• 1st Street / MN 197
• MN 197 / 5th Street (becomes CR 7, then CR 10)
• CR 10 / CR 9 (becomes CR 40)
• CR 40 / CR 2
• [4] shows reassurance on CR 122, which comes straight off the end of CR 2

The 1960 official is the first to show the GRR; the only definite differences from its current route are US 10-61 from Hastings to St. Paul, University Avenue from St. Paul to Minneapolis (not definite until 1962), US 10-371 from Rice (St. Cloud to Rice is indefinite until 1962) to Camp Ripley Junction, probably MN 210 from Brainerd to Crosby, probably MN 210-65 from Aitkin to Jacobson, probably US 2 from Grand Rapids to Bemidji, and US 71 from Bemidji to Lake Itasca. The Canadian extension branches off at Bemidji with two alternate routes: US 71 and ON 71 to Kenora (which apparently continued to Minaki via ON 596), or MN 89 and MN 11 to Warroad. 1962 shows the western branch of the extension shifted to MN 200-MN 92-CR 5-BIA 3 from Lake Itasca to Lower Red Lake. 1964 shows a third alternate following MN 72 from Blackduck to Baudette. 1966 adds a shortcut from Little Falls to Lake Itasca on US 10-71, and is this first to show the western and central Canadian extensions entering Canada, by following MN 11 to Warroad and MN 313/MB 12 to at least Steinbach. Yet another shortcut appears in 1968, taking MN 64 from Motley to Akeley (and probably continuing to west of Laporte). Both of these shortcuts appear last in 1975. 1997-98 is the last official to show the Canadian extensions (the MN 72 route also disappears after 1975).

The GRR was extended into Manitoba in 1965, following MB 12-MB 1-MB 59-MB 11-MB 307-MB 44-MB 1-ON 17. --NE2 19:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Louisiana

There seem to be few if any signs in Louisiana. However, the route is defined by state law: http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/newWin.asp?doc=207049 --NE2 06:35, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Status of Missouri signage

• I-55 exit 8
• I-55 exit 32
• US 61 Portageville
• (I-55 exit 89: all I can find is southbound reassurance)
• (I-55 exit 93: all I can find is southbound reassurance)
• (there's ample reassurance through Cape Girardeau and Jackson, but nothing at the turns)
• I-55 exit 170 (yes, it enters the Interstate even though US 61 doesn't)
• (it goes through downtown St. Louis - there's southbound reassurance at the Sidney Street overpass)
• I-70 / Route 94
• Route 94 / US 54 (stays on Route 94)
• Route 94 / I-72
• I-72 / US 61
• US 61 / Route 168
• Route 168 / US 61
• US 61 / US 61 Bus. (LaGrange)
• US 61 Bus. / Route B
• Route B / US 61
• US 61 Bus. / US 61 (Canton)
• US 61 / Route 27 (stays on US 61)

The spur to Illinois on Route 51 has reassurance, at least southbound. The spur on I-72 has bannerless trailblazers. --NE2 02:56, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Status of Iowa signage

• US 61 Bus. / US 136 (stays on US 136)
• US 136 / 4th Street
• 4th Street / Orleans Avenue
• (no signs at Orleans Avenue / 7th Street - why does it turn this way? does it still?)
• 7th Street / Grand Avenue
• Grand Avenue / Rand Park Terrace
• (follows CR X28)
• Elm Street / Middle Road
• (follows the main road around the curves)
• Mississippi River Road / US 61
• US 61 / US 61 Bus.
• US 61 Bus. / US 61
• US 61 / CR X62
• Summer Street / Madison Avenue
• Madison Avenue / Main Drive (bridge out, but GRR signs point via it)
• CR X99 / CR X61 (all paved now)
• CR X61 / US 61 Bus.
• US 61 Bus. / Iowa 22
• Iowa 22 / US 61 Bus.
• US 61 Bus. / US 67
• (follows US 67 around Camanche)
• US 67 / US 30 (stays on US 67)
• US 67 / US 52
• US 52 / US 61 (stays on US 52, but not clear whether or not it uses 9th/11th)
• US 52 / CR C9Y
• CR C9Y / Mud Lake Road
• Circle Ridge Road / CR C9Y
• CR C9Y / US 52
• (see p. 73 for Guttenberg - the Goog's latest is from 2009 and it's hard to make out shields, but it appears to have used River Park / Hayden / 3rd / Kosciusko)
• CR X56 / Iowa 76
• Iowa 76 / CR X52
• CR X52 / Iowa 9
• Iowa 9 / Iowa 26

The spur to Illinois on Iowa 92 has reassurance (and a southbound directional pointing both ways), but those on the Fort Madison Bridge and on US 20 have nothing. I also don't see anything on US 61 to Wisconsin. --NE2 05:45, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

National Route

A bit of history about the National Route: http://www.mrpcmembers.com/files/MRPC_2007_info.pdf --NE2 02:21, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Per 41 FR 52449 (1976) the National Route crosses the river on the following bridges:

• Black Hawk Bridge
• Julien Dubuque Bridge
• Norbert F. Beckey Bridge
• Fort Madison Toll Bridge
• Mark Twain Memorial Bridge
• Chester Bridge
• Memphis & Arkansas Bridge (Hernando de Soto Bridge didn't open until 1973)
• Greenville Bridge
• Huey P. Long Bridge (Baton Rouge)

--NE2 04:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)