Talk:Great Smoky Mountains National Park

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According to the U.S. National Park Service this park is the most visited U.S. national park. This information was provided in the NPS newsletter on 14-Aug-2006. As this is not an online reference, this information has not added to the article. Solarapex 10:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC).

Wow, it seems funny responding to a comment 10 years after the fact, but here goes: There are now plenty of online references that show GSMNP is the most-visited park in the system. Therefore, I will add the info, which is quite noteworthy, to the lead.Pistongrinder (talk) 16:56, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

My bad. It's already there, hidden in the middle of that clunky paragraph.Pistongrinder (talk) 17:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Retreating northern forests

While I know this is not a page one would associate with a heated debate about global warming/climate change, this passage:

"During the most recent ice age, the northeast-to-southwest orientation of the Appalachian mountains allowed species to migrate southward along the slopes rather than finding the mountains to be a barrier. As climate warms, many northern species are now retreating upward along the slopes and withdrawing northward, while southern species are expanding."

certainly suggests a particular view on the issue and leads one to believe the current trend is one that has us headed back to normalcy. I don't agree and neither does most of the scientific community. Batvette (talk) 06:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to re-word if you have a proper citation. I'm not sure who wrote the original paragraph, but I don't think they were trying to suggest that a thinner northern forest is "normal" for the Smokies. Bms4880 (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

never mind, he was right and I was wrong.(reminds self, check your own facts before calling others' wrong.)Batvette (talk) 04:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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==Importance== Top importance. The Great Smoky Mountains National Park is well known in and beyond Tennessee. As a UNESCO world heritage site a top importance is adequate. ==Quality== B-Class. The article is well structured. Images are used to illustrate the topic and links to related topics are relevant. No redundant information and clear language. References are used but could be extended to cover more of the facts stated in the article. Sub-headers could make it easier to find relevant information without reading the complete article. ==Comment== Not far from a GA (Good Article) rating.

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Racist vandalism of 2020

This is a comment regarding the incident where a sign was vandalized with a racist message and dead bear skin. I feel like this incident is notable enough to be put in the article but I'm opening the discussion for feedback. Cyber the tiger (talk) 00:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Article issues and classification

Sometimes incremental edits can introduce unforeseen issues. This article shows to have passed the B-class criteria but has some issues.

• There are "citation needed" tags from October 2018 and October 2019.
• The last three sentences in the "Geography" section are not sourced.
• The first and third paragraphs of the "Mountains" subsection are unsourced
• The fairly large paragraph in the "Streams and waterfalls" subsection is unsoured.
• The prose in the "Historic areas" subsection is unsourced.
• The second paragraph in the "Wildflowers" subsection is unsoured.
• The "Hiking and trails" subsection has sentences and two paragraphs unsourced.
• The first paragraph of the "Sightseeing" subsection is unsourced
• The second paragraph in the "Other activities" subsection is unsourced
• Around six of the last sentences in the fairly large last paragraph of the "European exploration and settlement and cherokee removal" subsection is unsourced.

The "External links" section has grown to six links. Three, possibly four with consensus, is usually sufficient.

Having enjoyed 560 editors and 146 watchers, I am just leaving these notes for now. -- Otr500 (talk) 06:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I plan to eventually address all of these issues, with the ultimate goal of promoting this to a featured article. Unfortunately, I am not as active as I once was, and it is taking a lot longer than I had hoped. But I will get back to this shortly. Bneu2013 (talk) 04:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)