Talk:Gretna, Louisiana

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You certainly do have an article on Gretna.

In future disasters is it the federal government's job to overpower the local - surrounding - police force? the National Guards? or can locals shot the cops who try to kill thousands of US citzens by letting them drown? Gretna is so embarrassing that the government ( all levels ) wants to make believe they never heard of it - most US citizens ditto.

Edit 24 May

I reverted the recent edit adding this text: "The burning of the Oakwood Mall, which is located on the westbank and was looted and burned by the looters of the eastbank and a cop in Algiers (part of the westbank of Orleans Parish) being shot in the head may have played a role in the Gretna police choice to block the bridge.."

I have no objection to adding such information if confirmed and adiquately worded, but as stated above, it has some problems. 1)Wording is unclear-- did the cop in Algiers participate in the looting and burning of the mall, or should that be a separate phrase? 2)Is the idenity of the looters/arsonists known, or where they were from? Suggestions for clarifying such points? Thanks, -- Infrogmation 21:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Re-added link

The gretnasucks link is really horrible. I'm not going re-remove it but the site is an extreme POV site with no primary source material. However, I was glad for the link, myself, because I had always been mystified by the white people who showed up on 60 Minutes to declare that the issue was racism. I'm thinking, well, they denied you access too, right? Now I know who they were. --Economy1 12:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I agree completely. I think the whole of the rest of the paragraph gets that across, and while not being sourced, is reliable. It's horribly POV to put that particular sense, phrased that way, into the article, however. -Kmaguir1 05:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I like that the blog has a number of sources that further this POV (and add facts to the issue), i for one was disgusted by what I've read about what went down there, but it would be hard to say that the link was not biased and being a blog is a pretty poor source to cite. I think the best thing to do for anyone that wants to re-add the link would be to instead mine it for links to sources that are more credible (IE not blogs), and will be taken as being less biased (which furthers their credability)... --Michael Lynn 10:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Citations Still Needed

I understand that the police action on the CCC during Katrina has had a real polarizing effect but I've only ever questioned the unsubstantiated assertions about the event that the media picked up on. I don't dispute that the blockade occured - the police have admitted that it did. I don't doubt that shots were fired by the Gretna police and I'm sure there will be ample proof of that as the Cleo Fields civil rights lawsuit progresses. I don't even disgree that, in retrospect, the blockade was probably a mistake (although, I'm also willing to concede that it probably made sense at the time). However, none of the recently added links asserts that there was a threat to shoot those people on the bridge. Firing warning shots overhead in a police action of this kind is not automatically the same thing a threat to shoot residents and tourists. I've sued bad cops on behalf of the ACLU. I've got no problem accepting accurate accusations, especially against those who probably aren't as unbiased as we would require law enforcement agents to be. But it doesn't help solve the real race issues that we have in the area to promulgate and perpetuate rumors and myths. I'll leave the links for someone else to delete whenever they feel the need. They really don't support the assertion made and serve to underscore the problems with this part of the story. Economy1 15:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

(Date of above entry noted.) References to blogs are not sufficient for this. The blogs that were previously referenced contained links to stories in the New York Times, which is a more reliable ref than a blog. Halsteadk (talk) 14:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh fucking puh-lease. The substantiation comes from eye witnesses, which are sourced, and are alledged. But as for your ridiculous assertion, NO. A warning shot is a warning to cease and desist before SHOTS are FIRED at them. You thick moron. 203.59.103.93 (talk) 18:32, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Sutter Cane

Anon: Please see Wikipedia:Civility; please make your points within those guidelines. Halsteadk: The incident was very well known locally, observed by thousands, and reported on by various media. Agree that the NYT is considered a more reliable ref than a personal blog; however multiple independent first hand reports can be reasonable refs as well. -- Infrogmation (talk) 20:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Post Office

The government and infrastructure section of the article is trivial at best, as it only lists a tautological statement about the post office. An expansion is necessary to increase the significance of the section; otherwise, the post can be merely mentioned elsewhere in the article, so as not to draw unneeded attention away from important facts. 9garrison (talk) 15:30, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Article rating

Since Gretna is an independent city, not just a neighborhood of New Orleans, I think the article deserves a class rating of C, rather than Mid. I have marked it accordingly. Bruin2 (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)