Talk:Grigory Shtern

Requested move 5 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 14:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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Grigori Shtern → Grigory Shtern – Standard romanization and naming customs on English Wikipedia (page previously moved many times by Russian user unfamiliar with English Wikipedia naming policy) PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mdaniels5757 (talk) 16:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Mdaniels5757: Does anyone actually contest this?--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

  Given your nomination statement and my perusal of page history, I gathered that "there has been [some] past debate about the best title for the page" or "someone could reasonably disagree with the move", so according to WP:RM#CM, a full RM is required. I don't really care either way. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:14, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

  @Mdaniels5757: If you looked more closely at the page history you would realize that the moving was because a Russian user clearly lacking knowledge of how things work on English Wikipedia wrongly moved the page to Shtern, Grigory Mikhaylovich in blatant violation of our policies for names of Russian biographies (instead naming the article in line with Russian Wikipedia's Surname-comma-givenname-space-patronymic rule). It then got moved back when someone noticed the problem, but in the process it did mean that the redirect pages got edited by bots several times. There is no dispute under official Wikipedia policy Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) that –ий ending in the case of "Григорий" should be romanized as "Grigory" with a "y" instead of an "i", as demonstrated by both precedent and Wikipedia:Romanization of Russian. His name is Григорий spelt the Russian way, not Григори (Bulgarian spelling). Given the relatively low amount of attention Soviet military history biographies get I highly doubt many people have this article on their watchlist, nor do I expect many people to contribute to this discussion, and frankly am rather uninterested in waiting the month(s) it would take to get a sufficent number of people to vote to declare a consensus, especially given the unobjectionable nature of the subject.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 00:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

• Support Title should be standardized in line with WP:RUS like other articles in this subject area. Kges1901 (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.