This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Grilled cheese article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Split from cheese sandwich
editAlthough the anon who split this article off from cheese sandwich claimed to do so "by request" I know of no recent proposals, discussions or other activity related to this. Was there? Given that, without grilled cheese, cheese sandwich is little more than a stub with a lot of pictures, I don't think this split was constructive, and will revert it if there was indeed no consensus in support of it. Ibadibam (talk) 16:39, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Jschnur (talk) 21:54, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Cheddar
editCheddar is so thoroughly genericized I had to look up whether a cheese-making settlement named Cheddar has ever existed (its fame has not spread to Canada). It's jarring to my eye in this context to see cheddar treated as a proper noun, so I'm going to change it to "cheddar". My change, however, has no weight if Wikipedia policy speaks to the matter and someone wishes to contest the matter. — MaxEnt 19:06, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I can't find a guideline on genericized trademarks, but I think it makes sense to use title case when referring to a specific, PDO-eligible product, and lowercase when refer to the general style it represents. That appears to be the way Cheddar implements capitalization. Ibadibam (talk) 21:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
The definition of grilled cheeese
editComing from the grilled cheese page: grilled cheeses are only bread, cheese, and whatever you use to fry / grill it. Adding another ingredient makes it a melt. -Speedy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speedy2779 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Speedy2779: Do you have a reliable source for this? There are several reliable sources on this page which say that a grilled cheese can include additional ingredients. SailingInABathTub (talk) 22:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- We do currently have an article Melt sandwich. Ibadibam (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- This is dubious - while there are melts, like a patty melt or tuna melt, a grilled cheese sandwich with sliced ham inside is a grilled ham and cheese sandwich (or more commonly a grilled ham and cheese). Have never heard one called a ham melt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:4280:A710:84A7:6C99:B492:CD70 (talk) 23:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- We do currently have an article Melt sandwich. Ibadibam (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
This is not a toasted sandwich
editWhy has a toasted sandwich, which has little resemblance to the US version with fake "cheese", been merged with this? A toasted sandwich is sometimes filled with cheese at times, but could have totally different fillings, like cream corn, an egg, you name it. The US does not have instant naming rights on what things are called and when you search for an actual "toasted sandwich" article, it gives you the device for making them. This needs to be sorted out, because just because the US does one thing, does not mean the rest of the world does as well. ZL3XD (talk) 07:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Like you say, if you search for "toasted sandwich" you get taken to pie iron. The toasted sandwich article was merged actually merged there, back in 2007, not here. I'd suggest adding a section to the pie iron article that talked more about the toasted sandwich as a food made in a pie iron, and its potential fillings. --Belbury (talk) 09:24, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- The article is a mess, written from a completely US perspective. Unfortunately many WP food articles suffer from this "all the world's America" attitude. --Ef80 (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: College Composition II
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 11 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kayprender (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Lindseybean28 (talk) 21:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Place of Origin
editIs it correct to note the place of origin as United States, given the recipe appears to have originated in the United Kingdom (as per [1])? Steamspray (talk) 11:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Seems inappropriate to give it any known place of origin, for such a simple dish. (The Mrs Beeton source isn't even claiming to have invented the toasted cheese sandwich, just to be recording it.) I'll remove that from the infobox. Belbury (talk) 11:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)