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Requested move 22 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 08:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply


Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao F.C. → Guangzhou F.C. – New official name (广州足球俱乐部) due to new regulation to disallow sponsored name or the name of the owner appears in the football club name. Also, Guangzhou F.C. already a common name (one of) and a former name already. Other Chinese article are all moved to new official name so consistency is also needed. Matthew hk (talk) 12:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 12:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
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@Snowflake91: You should state another RM that move all Chinese football club article to drop the dots or not. Matthew hk (talk) 10:48, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

It should be on the club-by-club basis, some of them might actually use "F.C.", I wont check for all 100 clubs which version is their common name; there doesnt needs to be consistency like "one club has FC = all Chinese clubs needs FC", it should be simply based on the English sources for each club. Snowflake91 (talk) 11:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 30 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 11:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply


Guangzhou F.C. → Guangzhou FC – Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 78#F.C. vs FC and WP:COMMONNAME, version without dots is used in every single source. If English clubs have F.C. its because this is just the abbreviation for "Football Club", while Asian clubs are branded like this, its just "Guangzhou FC", and "FC" doesnt necessary means "football club". There are tons of clubs like that outside of Europe, like Vancouver Whitecaps FC, Sydney FC, Auckland City FC, FC Seoul, FC Tokyo, Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors FC and many many others, which all uses WP:COMMONNAME, and not this "Premier League style" namings.

Sources that confirms commonname: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 etc., while "F.C." is literally not used anywhere. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Snowflake91, read WP:criteria (criterion Consistency) Either all Chinese football club use F.C., or all Chinese football club use FC. Oppose to change Guangzhou F.C. only. Matthew hk (talk) 11:15, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
This is not meant for minor things like removing two dots, it is meant for the whole naming pattern, for example to use "Arsenal F.C." and not "Arsenal Football Club", which would not be a similar pattern compared to other articles. It also says "These should be seen as goals, not as rules", so it is not mandatory to use exactly the same pattern for every single article, instead the common sense should be used, i.e. if every single source uses "Guangzhou FC" we should use "Guangzhou FC" regardless of how the other 100 articles are named. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:19, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
This is also covered by WP:NCST. Also see Talk:FC Porto#Requested move 20 January 2015, it was easily moved to the commonly-used name, "FC Porto", even though ALL other Portuguese clubs uses F.C., as you can see at Category:Football clubs in Portugal. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, and ironically you supported move to "FC Porto" on link provided above, even though Category:Football clubs in Portugal clearly shows that naming convention for Portugal is "F.C."...double standards again, and now they will bring up WP:OTHERSTUFF. Basically you are saying that just because one article has the wrong name, all articles should have a made-up "F.C." name which is not supported neither by the sources neither by the club itself neither by WP:NCST, and it is forbidden to fix the name for one club without also fixing the names of 150 other clubs. Its like saying "hey you cannot update stats for Cristiano Ronaldo unless you will also update the stats for all other Serie A players at the same time, for consistency". Snowflake91 (talk) 15:28, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Quoting an AFD from over 6 years ago? Cool! You are aware consensus/opinions can change, right? GiantSnowman 15:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Has Evergrande liquidated it's ownership share in Guangzhou F.C.?

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Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Considering that Evergrande went bankrupt, have their liquidated their assets, including Guangzhou FC ownership, yet? Alexysun (talk) 02:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

The club should still be "owned" by the Evergrande group as there hasn't been a reported ownership "change" yet. However, from my understanding (which may be incorrect), the club now operates independently of the Evergrande group, other than the remaining debts to former players and staff which they may owe. Someone with better knowledge of the club than me should add onto/correct what I have said though. IDontHaveSkype (talk) 04:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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