Talk:Guisarme

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Monstrelet in topic Images

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"The wielder of the guisarme carries it in his right hand, resting on his left shoulder." does this really have anything to do with anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannysjgdf (talkcontribs) 05:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree, seems more an excuse to mention the book than to say anything important. I am loathe to remove anything from a stub, but this isn't really pertinent. Raisedonadiet (talk) 22:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Naming and Origins

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The guisarme, by its very title refers just to a pruning hook: perhaps with a nail-like spike as an adaptation. Anything incorporating a full spear blade becomes a bill-guisarme; which again accurately describes the combination. Its origin may have come from some perceived piety in using the weapon rather than one with a spear point...--94.192.224.12 (talk) 11:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

"He will judge between many peoples and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore." Micah 4:3

The etymology of guisarme is a bit speculative, but OHG getisarna - weed - iron- is a possible. Do you have a source for the religious connection, or is it speculation? Monstrelet (talk) 10:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Images

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Pretty sure the image is actually of a fauchard... Theblindsage (talk) 20:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Personally, I'd say it was a sparth - a fauchard curves the other way like a sickle. The interesting thing is the 14th century artist, illustrating a giserne, drew it like this. So guisarme may have had a less clear meaning to contemporaries than it appears to to us.Monstrelet (talk) 16:45, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
It's a Bardiche! LamontCranston (talk) 09:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
A term not attested in England until centuries later, so not a bardiche, though the similarities are noticeable. Monstrelet (talk) 10:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC)Reply