Talk:Gun (staff)

The following was moved from Talk:Gwun. Fire Star 05:47, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think we should place this in an article using the spelling "gun". Maybe Gun (staff)?

Wintran 12:17, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. Fire Star 21:44, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image

A picture better showing the gun itself would probably be good to have.

pronouciation

isn't it pronounced gwen? who calls it 'goon'?

Well, it sort of sounds like "gwoon" (short sound) to me...

Edededed (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

List

Currently, the list of "gun" types is as follows:

• Monkey Staff (Chinese: 猴棍; pinyin: hóugùn)
• Biangan (Chinese: 鞭杆; pinyin: biāngān)
• Mad Demon Staff (simplified Chinese: 疯魔棍; traditional Chinese: 瘋魔棍; pinyin: fēngmó gùn)
• Tianqi Staff (simplified Chinese: 天齐棍; traditional Chinese: 天齊棍; pinyin: tiānqí gùn)
• Staff of Five Tigers and Goat Herds (Chinese: 五虎群羊棍; pinyin: wǔ hǔ qún yáng gùn)
• Nunchaku (simplified Chinese: 二节棍; traditional Chinese: 雙節棍; pinyin: èrjié gùn; lit. 'two section staff')
• Taiji Staff of Thirteen (simplified Chinese: 太极十三秆; traditional Chinese: 太極十三杆; pinyin: tàijí shísān gǎn)
• Taiji Quarterstaff (simplified Chinese: 太极大秆; traditional Chinese: 太極大杆; pinyin: tàijí dà gǎn)
• Taiji Staff (simplified Chinese: 太极棍; traditional Chinese: 太極棍; pinyin: tàijí gùn)
• Staff of Eight Fairies (Chinese: 八仙棍; pinyin: bāxiān gùn)
• Bagua Seven Star Rod (Chinese: 八卦七星竿; pinyin: bāguà qīxīng gān)
• Flail (simplified Chinese: 梿枷; traditional Chinese: 槤枷; pinyin: liánjiā)

This list seems rather flawed to me, in that many of these are forms (styles) of staff use, not different kinds of staves. For example, the Mad Demon Staff, Five Tigers Herd Goats Staff, and Taiji Staff are just methods (forms) of using the staff (gun); The Monkey Staff is borderline as this is also a method (form), but this staff is often made of metal instead of wood; some weapons listed as not "gun" at all, however, such as the Bagua Seven Star Rod (which is not "gun" and is made of a specific type of bamboo) or the flail (which is not a staff/gun at all). Edededed (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Vietnam

The reason why I added edits related to Vietnam is because the Chinese has introduced the gun when Vietnam was under Chinese influence. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 00:57, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

As I keep telling you multiple times, if you want to create articles for Vietnamese weapons, create separate respective articles signifying the Vietnamese weapons. No one is stopping you from creating them. What I object to is that you stop inserting content and haphazardly renaming articles related to Vietnamese related weapons into articles related to Chinese weapons. SimeonManier (talk) 03:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Iron staff / Shaolin Staff ?? and monkey's stick

The (chinese) Iron staff. I found some mention of it in the context of pole-arms used throughout Chinese history but it's unclear wheter it really was used as a weapon or it's just a contemporary/iron reproduction of a wooden staff. Maybe it refers to "Hou Gun" (monkey's stick) - but it's unclear to me. I found one mention of it as Shaolin Monk Iron Staff here : "Jin Na Luo ... became known as the first of the Shaolin Iron Staff Monk; and possibly the reason the Shaolin form of Staff was termed Iron Staff (although later Shaolin Staff's were Bronze or metal shot at the ends)." , which makes it different than monkey's stick.

Is it just an iron version or a different (sub)type? Believe it should be covered in the article. 89.201.201.113 (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2020 (UTC)