Talk:Gustaf Einar Du Rietz

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 16:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments

• Maybe "botanist" not "biologist", less of an anachronism and more specific? ([8] calls him Lichenologist, plant sociologist, conservationist.)

• Botanist it is. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• "island of Jungfrun" - seems to be a rocky nature reserve on Gotland?

• My bad, fixed. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• "would later" -- can't see the point of this contorted construction. Either just put things in chronological order and say he did this, he ____ed that, he did the other; or say "He later did this" if out-of-order is absolutely necessary for some reason.

• I kept the first of these, because it's a valid and appropriate use of the future in the past tense (it reflects Du Rietz's future actions from a past perspective, encapsulating the anticipation of events that were planned or expected but had not yet occurred at that point in the narrative), but agree that the second instance was not appropriate, and so changed it to "became". Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• What are these "laws of constancy"? Either a wikilink or a gloss, preferably both.

• Added a gloss, there's no appropriate link (and probably won't be one; it seems to be an outdated phytosociological theory). Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• Link "archipelago" to Stockholm Archipelago.

• Done. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• Nothing to do with this review, but I wonder that we don't have a {{Lichenologists}} template to go at the ends of articles like this one. Or maybe {{Swedish lichenologists}}.

• I hadn't thought about that before, but I kind of like the idea of country-specific lichenologist templates for easier navigation. I'll bring up the idea sometime at an appropriate venue. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• The URL http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:565457/FULLTEXT01.pdfAmerica could be added to "Life-forms of terrestrial flowering plants".

• Done. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• "After this, .... Euphrasia: After what, exactly? (and you might say that the plant is Eyebright).

• Reworded and mentioned Eyebrights. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• "small cryptogams" falls oddly on the ear in the 21st century, more like the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica than anything else.

• I reverse-glossed the first instance of cryptogams, so the second time the word appears it hopefully shouldn't sound as unusual. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• "Einar guided" -> we use surnames. But if "Einar" was how he was known to colleagues and friends, that should be stated (indeed, in boldface, and you might headline the infobox "Einar Du Rietz".

• Not sure enough that this is what he was commonly referred to, so changed to surname. Esculenta (talk)

• "According to his biographer, .... helped them become independent researchers." The passage seems to slide from reporting Sjörs's views to stating them in Wikipedia's voice, but the claims made sound like a sympathetic biographer's not a neutral encyclopedia's. It all needs reworking.

• I reworked this; it perhaps still sounds somewhat sympathetic, but I've made it more clear this is Sjörs's opinion and not Wikipedia's. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Images

• The photo of Du Rietz needs a PD-US tag on Commons.

• Added. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• The other images seem to be ok on Commons but I note only one has been fully checked and annotated there.

Sources

• There's uncited material in the first paragraph of 'Academic career'.

• Added the source I truncated previously. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• Earwig thinks copyvio is unlikely.

• Good, it is! Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• [8] Sjörs Svensk Botanisk Tidskrift (a very readable article, btw) provides what looks like a carefully-chosen summary of Du Rietz's most important works; and unlike the list we have in the article, which inexplicably gives up after 1949, it continues until 1965.

• I've added two more works to show his publications/research continues into the 50s and 60s. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• THE PLANT COVER OF SWEDEN is at this URL. I get an amazing feeling for Du Reitz's instruction looking through his students' careful work! - But we'll have to let 'pedia readers find that out for themselves. We ought to list it straight after 'Selected publications'.

• Instead of placing it in that section (dedicated to pubs of the author), I added a couple more sentences in the "Recognition" section sourced to the preface of this publication, linked with the URL you give, so that interested readers will be able to explore more. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Summary

• Well, a fascinating article on an inspirational figure. I've made only a few comments above, hope they're helpful. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

• They certainly were. Thanks for taking the time to review. My changes to your suggestions can be seen in this edit. Esculenta (talk) 20:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.