Talk:Hórreo
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editThis article is more about small granaries on stilts in general than on the hórreos of Spain. I think it might be better with a new article with a generic name that could incorporate the various traditions (also the French raccard, which has its own stub), and reduce this to a specific article on the Spanish or Iberian tradition. But I'm no native speaker of English and have no suggestion for a generic term. --TrEn (talk) 03:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, the name should be more generic (and transparent to English speakers). The term raised granary is relatively common in English literature (188 hits at Google books). Elevated granary (66 hits) is also a reasonable term. Because the article already incorporates material from Iberia, Scandinavia, and the Balkans, I suggest moving it to raised granary and restructuring it to reflect regional traditions. Doremo (talk) 05:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure this would be a good idea. This page should remain focussed on the hórreo, a type of granary that most European specialists of vernacular architecture are familiar with. Its Scandinavian, Swiss and French counterparts are only briefly mentioned and so far no contributor has been willing or knowledgeable enough to expand on their subject. So, creating a generic page on the world's raised granaries may well result in another utopian endeavour. --Christian Lassure (talk) 00:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think making a more all-encompassing page would be a good idea, seeing as the hórreo judging by this page is the exact same thing as the norwegian stabbur I'm most familiar with and others. I don't understand the argument that Wikipedia shouldn't reflect reality because a niche of people are most familiar with one instance of a worldwide phenomenon. Framing other types as variations of hórreos would wrong, and though it's not making that point explicitly that's an impression you could get from this page as it is now. The information on hórreos wouldn't disappear, so I don't see why not. Markopeter (talk) 15:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think that a distinct raised granary page is required because most are raised, as discussed on the Granary page. Noting that Galician granary is unreferenced and Hórreo has only one weak reference, I suggest merge them both to granary, which at only 7k in size is small enough to accommodate them. Klbrain (talk) 22:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- The Granary page is a hodgepodge of various types of buildings that are architecturally and morphologically different. The only thing they have in common is their function or use: the storing of grain. So moving the horreo to that page is out of the question. --Elnon (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- However, since the "Galician granary" is also called "the horreo of Galicia" in the "Encyclopedia of Vernacular Architecture of the World" (vol. 1, p. 713-14), I suppose the Galician granary page (in fact hardly more than a photo gallery) could be merged into the Horreo page without too much ado. --Elnon (talk) 22:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK.
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK.
- I don't think that a distinct raised granary page is required because most are raised, as discussed on the Granary page. Noting that Galician granary is unreferenced and Hórreo has only one weak reference, I suggest merge them both to granary, which at only 7k in size is small enough to accommodate them. Klbrain (talk) 22:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- I think making a more all-encompassing page would be a good idea, seeing as the hórreo judging by this page is the exact same thing as the norwegian stabbur I'm most familiar with and others. I don't understand the argument that Wikipedia shouldn't reflect reality because a niche of people are most familiar with one instance of a worldwide phenomenon. Framing other types as variations of hórreos would wrong, and though it's not making that point explicitly that's an impression you could get from this page as it is now. The information on hórreos wouldn't disappear, so I don't see why not. Markopeter (talk) 15:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- I am not sure this would be a good idea. This page should remain focussed on the hórreo, a type of granary that most European specialists of vernacular architecture are familiar with. Its Scandinavian, Swiss and French counterparts are only briefly mentioned and so far no contributor has been willing or knowledgeable enough to expand on their subject. So, creating a generic page on the world's raised granaries may well result in another utopian endeavour. --Christian Lassure (talk) 00:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Eira
edit"Eira" is not a synonym in portuguese for Horréo or granary. Indeed it means exactly, threshing floor, although they are usualy next to "Espigueiros". "Caniço" is a synomym for Espigueiro, although rarely used. --JotaCartas (talk) 02:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
That image is not from 1280
editMaize having come from Central America circa 1500 ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Columbian_exchange ), an European image with corn cannot be from 1280. Either the image is not from Cantigas de Santa Maria, or the book itself is not from 1280. It might be a later copy of the book, with illustrations added at the time of copying. 2001:8A0:E967:9D00:41A4:79F2:2AD2:A718 (talk) 15:49, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Further investigation shows the image on the top-right corner of page 500/524 of the "manuscript E" copy of Cantigas de Santa Maria, "(códice de los músicos, Biblioteca de El Escorial MS B.I.2, link to manuscript). The image **is** in the book. The image still cannot be from 1280. 🤷♀️ 2001:8A0:E967:9D00:41A4:79F2:2AD2:A718 (talk) 15:53, 27 October 2022 (UTC)