Talk:Influenza A virus subtype H5N1

(Redirected from Talk:H5N1)
Latest comment: 1 day ago by 174.92.25.207 in topic Recentism
Former good articleInfluenza A virus subtype H5N1 was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 11, 2005Good article nomineeListed
April 23, 2006Featured article candidateNot promoted
March 13, 2010Good article reassessmentDelisted
Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive This article was on the Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive for the week of September 10, 2005.
Current status: Delisted good article

edit

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 9 external links on Influenza A virus subtype H5N1. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

edit

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 5 external links on Influenza A virus subtype H5N1. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 19:58, 13 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - SP24 - Sect 201 - Thu

edit

  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 4 March 2024 and 4 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jrxijown (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Jrxijown (talk) 05:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Review and update

edit

I'm going to attempt to review this article over the next few weeks. Reasons are:-

  • many citations and most of the text are <10 years old , they don't reflect recent developments
  • some citations are now deadlinks
  • uncited content
  • undue weight in some areas

Other faults as listed in Talk:Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N1/GA1

Bob (talk) 15:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Recentism

edit

Thank you User:Robertpedley for tackling {{update}}.

However, I am concerned that too much historical information was removed in [1] and [2]. That content had references. Wikipedia didn't delete other historical information about viruses such as smallpox and the covid variants. If to restore the historical perspective, we need to create a new page, we should. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 23:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@174.92.25.207 thanks for keeping an eye on my edits.
I think "recentism " would apply if I had removed something historical and inserted something similar but recent. I haven't done that in either of those edits.
However I have removed chunks of material which had been placed by other editors, probably some time ago . I don't like to remove other people's work; the edit summary gives a brief reason but I'll explain why in more detail.
Edit [1] removed a chunk of material dated around 2007 headed "Genetics". This may have been valid at the time, but it is no longer so; the virus has mutated considerably of the last 17 years. It is based on primary information sources, so Wikipedia:No original research may apply. Certainly no secondary sources contain this amount of detail. Quite a lot of it would not be accessible to the majority of potential readers. (Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable). There is an excellent page H5N1 genetic structure which does this. A very brief outline is all that is needed here.
For edit [2] - the first paragraph is uncited and contains several inaccuracies (e.g. It is not known to affect humans at all."). The remainder is a an uncited and incomplete list of LPAI detections (mostly in North America) between 1966 and 2009 (there were thousands of detections worldwide).
In both cases, I have attempted add content which which summarises relevant parts of the history, and gives an accessible explanation of the current position. It's still work in progress - I'll get back to it in a couple of days. I'm sure improvements are possible! Bob (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah ok, if There is an excellent page H5N1 genetic structure which does this, then it's nice that you are removing information duplicated on other pages.
But on that article, even if the virus has mutated considerably of the last 17 years, I am interested in learning from things like the historical SARS-CoV-2_Alpha_variant even if the most prevalent variant is now SARS-CoV-2_Omicron_variant. Though given that other subarticle, I am now happy with the removal from this page so that readers get the most accurate and relevant medical information and I agree with you on the WP:PRIMARY, WP:MTAU, and outline points.
For the 2nd edit, I agree paragraph 1 is inaccurate and the list is incomplete. I was initially concerned because I saw a lot of paragraphs with <ref>s deleted. I usually can't see how WP:SYNTH applies to lists, but OK this list didn't appear to be of quality.
I was going to but won't restore the 2007 phylogenetics because it would be better as a cladogram image; I wonder if there are any recent studies. I won't readd, because I've never heard of, influenzareport (self-published?) although it could have been considered reliable in the past. The only thing I think worth restoring might be the WHO/USDA thing to Global_spread_of_H5N1_in_2006. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
PS You should get a user ID! "Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address." - Bob (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply