Talk:HMS Edinburgh (16)

Gold salvage

The information in the section "Gold salvage" is very different from the Russian version of the article. I give the translation of the Russian version here, sorry for my bad English.

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On board the cruiser Edinburgh was submerged in Murmansk, according to surviving documents, 93 wooden boxes, which contained 465 gold bars weighing 5,534,603.9 grams (195,548 ounces).

Gold is on board "Edinburgh", was insured by "Gosstrah USSR" (unified system of National Insurance in the USSR). 1/3 gold was reinsured by the English Committee on war risk insurance.

In 1981, an agreement was reached and signed a tripartite agreement on search and lifting of sunken gold. Parties to the contract were the UK Ministry of Trade, Ministry of Finance of the USSR and the British company "Jessop Marine. Recoveries Ltd.", which was supposed to carry out the operation in search and lifting gold.

Work on the lifting of gold around the clock. Boxes after a long stay in the water collapsed, everything was covered with a thick layer of mud and oil. Divers with soil pump with difficulty, sometimes groping, found the gold bars and shipped them to the grid, through which rose gold on board.

On board the ship is constantly on duty representatives of Ingosstrakh, fixing the amount of raised bars. Total has been raised 431 gold ingot total weight of 5129.3 kg. Due to the exhaustion of divers and worsening weather on October 5, it was decided to adjourn for lifting goods. October 9, 1981 the ship Stephaniturm" comes in the port of Murmansk with raised gold.

Gold distribution was carried out in accordance with the agreement reached and the rights of ownership of the goods in accordance with the regulations as follows: 1/3 - UK 2/3 - USSR. Rescuers received as payment for saving 45% of the saved gold.

The rest of the gold was raised five years later, in September 1986. The contract for the salvation of the goods was signed with the same company, "Jessop Marine. Recoveries Ltd." used boat "Deepwater-2" to lift gold. It was raised 29 gold bars weighing 345.3 kg. Five gold bars weighing 60 kg were left lying on the bottom of the Barents Sea. (It means 1 gold bar = ~12 kg , mark by Peter Porai-Koshits)

A source: Insurance Joint Stock Company 'INGOSSTRAH'.1947-1997: Historical Sketch of the 50th anniversary activities.

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--Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 15:12, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

• "there was a growing concern that the wreck might be looted ... by the Soviet Union." - very unneutral text, 2/3 of golds belongs to USSR, need reference. --Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 15:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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first mention of gold should be earlier than just in the 'Sinking' section?

The first mention of gold (other than in the table of Contents section) is in the sinking section, but there should be a mention of the fact of gold being on the ship before it's just casually mentioned in the sinking section. I could add something like the mention later in the Gold Salvage section, 'On the return journey, Edinburgh was carrying 4.5 long tons (4,570 kg) of gold bullion back to the UK.', but I'll wait a bit? UnderEducatedGeezer (talk) 23:17, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

could use more details about the diving procedures of the gold recovery?

A recent(?) National Geographic TV show presented the recovery of the gold from this ship, with details about the divers doing a lengthy 'super-saturated' dive (body tissues super-saturated by diving gasses, making repeated decompressions unnecessary). It would be good if someone who knows about these kinds of things could add some of that detail to this article. UnderEducatedGeezer (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)