Talk:HMS Sahib/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 14:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Giving a look. —Ed!^(talk) 14:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)

1. It is reasonably well written:

   Pass External links, dup links and dab links look good. Copyvio detector returns green.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:

   Not Yet

   • There's a relative reliance on Uboat.net which leads to an under-detailing of some parts. Some additional sourced I've found to add:

   [1] adds more detail to war patrols;

   • Only two pages mention Sahib during her war period, one of which is probably and error: on 1 July 1943, Sahib was already sunk and thus could not land commands in Sardinia. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   [2] notes the crew was commended for sinking U-301

   • Added what I could, but the book only says that Lieutenant Fraser was commended, not the whole crew. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   This book has more details on the sinking per above comment: [3]

   • Added. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage:

   Not Yet

   • The infobox data on ship speed is inconsistent with the speed data in the prose.

   • Fixed. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Prose also mentions mines, if they could be added to armament in the infobox.

   • As said in a previous review, the expendable armament such as the number of torpedoes, mines, shells, and machine gun rounds is generally not mentioned in the infobox. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Her namesake should be mentioned.

   • Added, I think Merriam-webster.com is a RS. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • The "Malta" section needs to be expanded with the aftermath of the sinking of the Scillin and its aftermath, as it's an incident that will likely drive a lot of non-Naval historian traffic to the article. That page has some details for a start, but talk about the inquiry of the captain and the subsequent secrecy of the event.

   • Sure, but the content on SS Scillin is sourced to a BBC blog and this, which I consider unreliable. A google books search was not turned up anything else than a book about retirement, which mentioned Scillin. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Sounds good, I think you've got what we can get on that part for now. Would be glad to see it expanded some day but the sources have to be there, and I think this is plenty for GA. —Ed!^(talk) 00:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "Algiers" section: Since Finale, Italy doesn't have a link, is there somewhere close to it that can be linked?

   • Linked. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Any other commanders than the one listed when the ship was launched?

   • Nope. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Last patrol: What was the effect of the depth charges? What on the ship was damaged to cause it to be forced to surface?

   • Added. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • How many of the crew returned home after the war?

   • Partially added. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Where's the wreck? Has it been located?

   • Probably not, though I have no source saying that the wreck was not found. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:

   Pass No problems there, though per above more diversity of referencing needed.

5. It is stable:

   Pass No problems there.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:

   Pass Images tagged PD as appropriate.

7. Other:

   On Hold Pending a few fixes. —Ed!^(talk) 14:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • @Ed!: done most points, what do you think now? L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, so all of the additions are bringing it in line with the GA criteria, I'm thinking. Going to Pass at this point. Thanks for your responsiveness! —Ed!^(talk) 00:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)