Talk:HMS Volage (R41)

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Buckshot06 in topic Personal account

Personal account

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Moved from article space - 'I was aboard HMS Volage in 1972, she was an accomodation ship for HMS Kent while the Kent was in refit, in 1965 she was in Portsmouth and used for Royal Marine training, she was eventually sold in Oct 1972 and scrapped in 1976', added by User:218.215.202.78 Benea (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Personal anecdote moved from article space - Corfu Channel - : "My Father Fred Etchell who was a yeoman of signals and thus on the bridge when they struck the mine, recalls chunks of the prow flying over his head after the explosion. When they got back to Britain apparently permission for leave which was owed, was refused. After a question in parliament by Tom Williams to the minister, all of a sudden the leave was granted." Buckshot06 (talk) 20:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Military operation or 'innocent passage'

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The final paragraph of this article may infringe the Wikipedia convention on original research - Wikipedia:No original research. Quote from the final paragraph of this article: 'The matter was taken further by Albanian scholar Auron Tare who did a research study in the British archives. After 6 months of research in London he discovered the File of the Corfu Channel Incident as well as the famous documents XCU and XCU 1. According to the File the scholars concluded that Volage and the other vessels were taking part of a military operation and not on a 'innocent passage"'. This assertion needs clarification and referencing, including the dates and precise venue of the '6 months of research in London', including explanation and sourcing of 'the famous documents XCU and XCU 1'. The exercise that saw British warships sailing through the Corfu Channel in October 1946, was never claimed to be, in itself, an 'an innocent passage'. It was a testing of Albanian reaction to the right of innocent passage through the Corfu Channel for international shipping. The events surrounding the Corfu Channel Incident can be described as a monitored international exercise by the Royal Navy under UN auspices. I contend that the final paragraph, as I have described it here, involved reference, to quote from the relevant Wikipedia entry, 'to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist ... (including) any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources.' The Wikipedia guidance Wikipedia:No original research makes the point that a contributor must 'demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented.' I believe this final paragraph in the article on HMS Volage (R41) needs to be referenced as required or removed. I suggest that future contributions to this article include reference to Ana Lalag, CWIHP Working Paper No. 70, Burning Secrets of the Corfu Channel Incident, Sept 2014. Simon Baddeley (talk) 23:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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