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Hahamog'na as the name of a person

This is obviously wrong to anyone who knows anything about the local Uto-Aztecan languages. These all have a locative suffix that's spelled variously as -gna, -ga or -na. Hahamog'na would therefore mean "the place of (the?) Hahamo". I just looked at the history of Pasadena cited as a reference, and it gives the chief's name as "Hahamovic", with the explanation that the -ic meant that he was the chief of the Hahamo people. In other words, both the chief and the place were named after the people, with a particular suffix used to show which was which. In fact, the indigenous languages of California are pretty much all agglutinative languages that use prefixes, suffixes, infixes and circumfixes for all kinds of things for which English uses separate words. I think we should go with our source, unless another source has better information- which I doubt for the reasons I gave above. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Looking further at the references, I have no idea why a library would be cited as a reference. Looking through the website, I saw nothing that mentions Hahamong-na. I'm sure there are books and other references at the library with relevant information- but which ones? Or did I miss some bit on the website talking about the history of the area where the Southwest Museum is located? Chuck Entz (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)