Talk:Hail to Pitt

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cp101p (talk) 03:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Panther Song

What is the source of the changes in current lyrics used in the Panther song? The song lyrics did match those printed in the Pitt News as cited. Is there a reasonable source for the changes made to the current lyrics?CrazyPaco (talk) 03:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

answered: see [[User talk:Tjtrumpet2323#Info on Pitt music CrazyPaco (talk) 22:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Lyrics

WP:NOTLYRICS does not prevent or forbid the inclusion of lyrics in this article.

To quote NOTLYRICS (bold mine for emphasis of my point):

For songs in the public domain the article should not consist solely of the lyrics (Wikisource should be used for such articles instead), but should instead provide information about authorship, date of publication, social impact, and so on. Quotations from an out-of-copyright song should be kept to a reasonable length relative to the rest of the article, and used to facilitate discussion, or to illustrate the style; the full text can be put on Wikisource and linked to from the article....See Wikipedia:Do not include the full text of lengthy primary sources for full discussion.

WP:NPS goes on to further state

If out of copyright, shorter texts - such as short speeches (the Gettysburg Address), short poems ("Ozymandias"), and short songs (most national anthems) - are usually included in their article.

For instance, The Star-Spangled Banner and O Canada includes full lyrics, while the cited examples of the hymn Christ the Lord Is Risen Today and poem Gunga Din do not.

Therefore, the lyrics have been restored to this article because: 1) The article "provide[s] information about authorship, date of publication, social impact, and so on". 2) The lyrics are used to "facilitate discussion, or to illustrate the style" such as the discussion as to their meaning, use, and origin (e.g. "alleghenee, genec, genac, genac" and "Uni") as well compared for changes over time. With their removal, the accompanying text of that discussion is rendered impotent. and 3) The lyrics are sufficiently short per examples of the national anthems. With that said, I do note the need to cull appearance of repetitiveness of the lyrics in modern vs traditional and perhaps add lyrics to Wikisource. CrazyPaco (talk) 02:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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