Talk:Hal Willner

"Modern" tribute album?

I removed the following claim from the lede and bring it here for discussion:

Willner is often credited as the inventor of the 'modern' tribute album with Amarcord Nino Rota in 1981.

First, who credits him with this "invention"? Second, what is meant by "modern" tribute album? As opposed to what, a premodern tribute album? That statement seems meaningless. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 22:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. It would be good to find a source that states or outlines the shift in the "tribute album" that Willner brought (IMHO). To my mind this is the shift from albums like George Jones Salutes Hank Williams (1960) or Nina Simone Sings Ellington (1962) (where a single artist or ensemble pays tribute to another single artist or ensemble) to Willner's eclectic gathering of performers from different music genres, as described in the opening paragraph of the article. Willner's appraoch was copied on subsequent tribute albums like Red Hot + Blue (1990).--Design (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree, especially about the Red Hot + Blue similarity. The problem is, finding a source that makes such a connection. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Birthday

They're saying on Facebook it's April 6: http://www.facebook.com/groups/42915831939/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotwisdom (talk • contribs) 11:45, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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Date of death

I'm seeing several articles saying that he either died on Monday or Tuesday.

Articles that say Monday:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/hal-willner-obituary-979949/

https://deadline.com/2020/04/hal-willner-dead-obituary-saturday-night-live-coronavirus-music-producer-covid19-1202902923/

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hal-willner-music-producer-longtime-192821474.html

Articles that say Tuesday:

https://www.thewrap.com/hal-willner-dead-coronavirus-64-snl-music-producer/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hal-willner-dead-film-tv-music-producer-was-64-1288993

I don't know which ones are right and which ones are wrong.

MikaelaArsenault (talk) 22:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)MikaelaArsenault

According to a friend on Facebook, he died yesterday morning and not on Monday.

[1] MikaelaArsenault (talk) 11:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

External link: https://www.facebook.com/joanaspolicewoman/posts/10157509042373533 . Desktop version with shorter URL. I wrapped above long Facebook URL with square brackets [] for readability. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@MikaelaArsenault:. The Yahoo link reads: "Click here to read the full article", which goes to the Rolling Stone obit. Similarly, I found The New York Times took their obit from AP, which I've added to the below list. While not comprehensive, WP:RSPSOURCES has helped me in determining how to use which sources. Luckily for us, the sources appear on the list. We can use all but Facebook. From least to most recent:

Source

1. Rolling Stone
2. The Hollywood Reporter
3. TheWrap
4. Deadline Hollywood
5. Associated Press

Published

1. April 7, 2020 3:28PM ET
2. 12:49 PM PDT 4/7/2020
3. April 7, 2020 @ 1:25 PM | Last Updated: April 7, 2020 @ 2:38 PM
4. April 7, 2020 1:37pm
5. 2020-04-08 00:01:06 - Tue Apr 07 2020 17:01:06 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Quote (bold mine)

1. died Monday at the age of 64. A rep for Willner confirmed the producer's death
2. Willner died Tuesday.
3. Willner died Tuesday of an illness, according to a representative.
4. died Monday of complications related to COVID-19, according to multiple reports.
5. Blake Zidell, a representative for Willner, said the producer died Tuesday. Zidell said Willner had symptoms consistent with those caused by the coronavirus, but he had not been diagnosed

Wikipedia's verifiability and reliable sources policies say we just summarize info from independent sources with editorial oversight. For now, we can put April 6[cite RS and Deadline here] or 7[cite all other sources here], as we wait for more obits and to see if any sources issue corrections. Incidentally, that means we should remove the info about the date of birth. We can leave the year in because Rolling Stone states: Born in Philadelphia in 1956. As a reader, I don't consider this a big loss in terms of understanding who Willner was. Hope that helped. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

It did help, thank you.

MikaelaArsenault (talk) 01:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)MikaelaArsenault