Talk:Hallstatt

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burial Time

According to the german speaking wikipedia the skulls and bone are unearhed after 20 to 30 years.

stefanbcn http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Stefanbcn 62.57.7.217 02:24, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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"Nach etwa 20 bis 30 Jahren werden die Gebeine exhumiert...."

source:http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallstatt#Sehensw.C3.BCrdigkeiten

Brythonic Celts

 The dismissal of the etymology of Hall=salt seems too conclusive.  

Hall is close to a form meaning salt in Brythonic languages. Saying that continental Celts did not use the same form does not preclude the etymology. As I understand it, Brythonic celts made their way across continental Europe prior to the Goidelic peoples. Thus they could have left a mark on place names. It is one thing to say that you cannot claim with any certainty that "Hall" comes from celtic for salt. But dismissing the etymology altogether seems tendentious. Johngfox

The Celts essentially came from central Europe, so it's not reasonable to suggest that Brythonic or Goidelic peoples passed through continental Europe on the way to the British Isles. It is fairly reasonable to assume that the same kinds of sound changes that occur in one branch of a language family (e.g. Brythonic) occur independently within another branch (e.g. eastern continental Celtic), likely motivated by the same stimuli. So it is reasonable to assume that whatever changed s > h in Brythonic would do the same in some continental languages. What is not reasonable is to make a pronouncement against the widely accepted view that hall in Hallstatt comes from Celtic with utterly no support for that position (like a citation for example). And suggesting that 'hall' comes from an OHG word meaning salt is just silly, given that salt is salt across Germanic (even going back to Gothic), except in High German (Old, Middle, & New) where it is Salz (owing to the High German consonant shift). Accordingly, I've changed the etymology to reflect was is more widely accepted. Any competing theories could be noted, but should include some source attribution and should be noted as controversial. Oskilla (talk) 05:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You might think it is silly to assume that the word 'hall' does not mean salt. All villages and towns in Austria and Germany carrying the word Hall in its name had and partly still have important saltmines (Hallstatt, Hallein, Hall in Tirol, Bad Hall, Hall in Styria; Schwäbisch Hall in Germany ...). Every Austrian pupil learnt and still learns that the word Hall ment salt and was a Celtic word, as Celtic populations/tribes used to live also in this part of the alps during a period now calles the Hallstatt culture (from about 1200 BC until around 500 BC) as in many other areas in Europe (see Hallstatt culture in Wikipedia). Hallstatt is located in an area of the Austrian province of Upper-Austria (Oberösterreich) called the Salzkammergut which could be translated as the area of the salt-camber assets. 01:47, November 7th 2009 HT66 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.127.31.46 (talk) 00:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The German article explains (with ref) that this idea, while traditionally taught, is simply wrong, and that the hall element simply comes from a Germanic word meaning "salt crust", which is related to Latin callum and unrelated with Welsh halen, the similarity being completely accidental. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 15:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Why really WHY don't you see what is OBVIOUS in the Greek language the word for salt is H A L S or H A L A S in genitive H A L A T O S, modern Greek (polytonic)H A L A T I or (monotonic)A L A T I. It's so fright to see that the origin of the name of HALLS in fact is pure Greek! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.58.71.145 (talk) 10:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Some things that appear blindingly obvious are still wrong. For example, it appears completely obvious that the Earth is flat and fixed and that the Sun revolves around it. Yet we know that this is not so. This is especially true in etymology, see false cognate. The tool to uncover such all-too-human mistakes is called science. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 11:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)