Talk:Hamstring
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Split
editI think it would make sense to split out the 728-word long "Injuries" section into its own page, Hamstring injuries. Any objections? --Arcadian 00:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think I would be a terrible idea, but let's see if anyone else has anything to say...ProfessorFokker 04:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I think Hamstring tendon composes of : Gracilis, semitendinosus tendon and satorius tendon. Have no Bicep tendon. tuana@hcm.vnn.vn
Are you referring to the Pes anserinus? Jimhsu77479 (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
stretching
editwhich part is it that somebody who is not flexible would work on stretching, for example to touch her toes?--Sonjaaa 19:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't understand exactly what do you mean but both the hurdlers stretch and standing hamstring stretch (where usually you touch your toes) work the hamstring. You don't necessarily need to touch your toes, but I'd say that eventually you might be able to after your body adapts. —Drowne | Talk 18:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've often heard the terms short and long hamstrings, I know I have short hamstrings because I can't touch my toes (in fact without warming up I can only get within 6 inches of my toes; about 3 inches after getting warm). Can someone make a good reference to this in this article, because I don't understand fully what "short hamstrings" are. Mglovesfun 12:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Nerve supply
editNerve supply is usually sciatic - only in a couple cases of anatomical variation where the sciatic divides higher in the thigh could the muscles be supplied by the tibial. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Snellios (talk • contribs) 22:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC).
Made correction. Does the table need correction? Jimhsu77479 (talk) 04:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Consulted orthopedics and radiology textbooks. The table is correct. Do you have evidence for the hamstrings being supplied by the main branch of the sciatic before the bifurcation? Jimhsu77479 (talk) 17:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Cleanup needed
editWho initially wrote this article? It really needs to be cleaned up. The grammar and wording of this article is far from encyclopedic, and it sounds like it was written by a third grader.
Cleanup and addition
editI've tried to clean up and reorganize the subject material and added the different grade injuries plus a small section on treatment methods imployed and an interior veiw of the muscle tissue. danieljackson 15:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Intro paragraph has problems
edit"In human anatomy, a hamstring refers to one of the tendons that makes up the borders of the space behind the knee. In modern anatomical contexts, however, they usually refer to the tendons of the semitendinosus, the semimembranosus, and the biceps femoris. In quadrupeds, it refers to the single large tendon found behind the knee or comparable area.
As shown in the diagram, the human hamstring occupies the posterior of the body of the femur."
First, "human anatomy" and "modern anatomical contexts" are not mutually exclusive, so it's confusing to give different definitions for the two. Second, the rest of the article seems to refer to the hamstring as a muscle or set of muscles (eg "Interior muscular view of the three muscles that make up the hamstring"), whereas the intro calls it a "tendon". My physiology classes were a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure a tendon is different from a muscle. Third, I think "semitendinosus, the semimembranosus, and the biceps femoris" are terms too specialized for the use without explanation -- it should be clarified that they are muscles in the back of the leg.
Plagarism !
editI found this same content here. Check the treatment part
www.physioroom.com/injuries/hip_and_thigh/hamstring_strain_full.php
Whereas there seems to be no permission given!
shampoo (talk) 15:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- This has been removed at some point in the last 17 years. It is a wonderful world (talk) 07:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
3 or 4 muscles?
editIn the first sentence it says " the hamstring refers to one of the three posterior thigh muscles" and in Etymology it says "The four muscles of the posterior thigh". So... how many posterior thigh muscles are there? 3 or 4 or something else? --85.177.218.114 (talk) 22:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Hamstringing ?
editThe links list has this as the first item. I don't think this is an appropriate subject to be the first external reference when talking about a major muscle group.
a muscle or a tendon?
editSo according to your definition, a hamstring is a muscle in humans, but a tendon in quadrupeds? Who invented such an illogical definition? A six year old kid? 85.193.248.142 (talk) 21:58, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- The reference to quadrupeds seems mostly derived from the origin in pork hams as food mentioned under History. But there is no discussion and no source to support this in the article, so I removed it from the lede. Zefr (talk) 22:40, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, it's better now, but how come all the reliable dictionaries claim that a hamstring is a tendon? Look here, here, or here. 85.193.248.142 (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- More confusioning for you. Ham is also a (dated) general anatomical term which can be applied to humans. Yes, the most familiar usage is with pig thigh/rump, but this more specific meaning follows from the general term. "Hamstring" as refering to tendon/s in the back of the thigh seems to date back to this older usage.
- I think for clarity, it might be better to talk about "hamstring muscles". I guess even more complicated is that "hamstring" isn't really used by anatomists because it's not precise enough. 14.203.21.183 (talk) 08:58, 24 August 2023 (UTC)