Talk:Hans My Hedgehog

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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Revisions to be made

The synopsis is sort of lengthy, and not written very coherently; it should be revised to be more "to the point". There are fragmented sentences that need to be fixed in order to make the writing more professional. Some things do not make sense and need to be further explained. Lastly, the "In Other Media" section needs to revised so as not to include loosely related information. Mtemaat (talk) 16:14, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I think the article would also benefit from a picture so that readers may be more able to visualize the story Mtemaat (talk) 17:13, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The synopsis includes irrelevant information and needs to be shortened. The video game reference and the "See also" section can be deleted because they don't add anything of importance to the page. Two of the sources used are connected to the game reference, and the finale one is questionable.Gbone42 (talk) 21:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The beginning does not tell when the original text was printed and only mentions the second.Gbone42 (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

I think the tale structure would be more organized with the addition of a list of the characters after the synopsis. Lorenx17 (talk) 03:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I believe the addition of a picture of the tale illustration would make the article more appealing Lorenx17 (talk) 03:25, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

In my opinion the article requires a section with a further explanation of the meaning behind the tale. Lorenx17 (talk) 03:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I am planning to add a transformation and/or a gender and/or a clothing and/or a morality section(s) to the articleGbone42 (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I plan to edit the character section to further explain each characters purpose/roleGbone42 (talk) 19:04, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Sources

Benedetto, Paul. "JUNGIAN ANALYSIS - 391 Bedford Ave, Toronto, On - 416.465.0909." Jungian Analysis » Lectures & Seminars. N.p., n.d. Web. 20 Nov. 2016. Lorenx17 (talk) 03:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Blamires, David. “The Fairytales of the Brothers Grimm.” Telling Tales: The Impact of Germany on English Children’s Books 1780-1918, Open Book Publishers, 2009, pp. 147–180, www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt5vjt8c.13. Lorenx17 (talk) 04:35, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Grimm, Jacob et al. “HANS MY HEDGEHOG.” The Original Folk and Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm: The Complete First Edition, Princeton University Press, 2014, pp. 354–359, www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt6wq18v.116. Lorenx17 (talk) 04:34, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Salmi-Niklander, Kirsti. "Jack Zipes: Grimm Legacies. The Magic Spell Of The Grimms' Folk And Fairy Tales. 2014." Fabula 57.1/2 (2016): 190-192. Academic Search Alumni Edition. Web. 20 Nov. 2016. Cleto, Sara1. "Disability, Deformity, And Disease In The Grimms' Fairy Tales." Marvels & Tales 29.2 (2015): 361-363. Humanities Full Text (H.W. Wilson). 23:18, 16 November 2016 (UTC) Mtemaat (talk) 03:20, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Schwabe, Claudia. "Grimm Legacies: The Magic Spell Of The Grimms' Folk And Fairy Tales." Marvels & Tales 1 (2016): 131. Academic OneFile. Web. 20 Nov. 2016.

Wölfel, Ute. "'All In One Stroke': Grimms' Fairy Tales And The TV-Production Of A New Germany." Oxford German Studies 44.3 (2015): 271-288. Humanities Source. Web. 20 Nov. 2016. Mtemaat (talk) 03:25, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Scott, Carole. "Magical Dress: Clothing And Transformation In Folk Tales." Children's Literature Association Quarterly 21.4 (1996): 151. Publisher Provided Full Text Searching File. Web. 16 Nov. 2016.Gbone42 (talk) 23:29, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Jorgensen, Jeana. "Quantifying The Grimm Corpus: Transgressive And Transformative Bodies In The Grimms’ Fairy Tales." Marvels & Tales 1 (2014): 127. Project MUSE. Web. 30 Nov. 2016.Gbone42 (talk) 17:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Boggs, Ralph S. “The Hero in the Folk Tales of Spain, Germany and Russia.” The Journal of American Folklore, vol. 44, no. 171, 1931, pp. 27–42. www.jstor.org/stable/535520.Lorenx17 (talk) 19:06, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Silveira Silva, Rafael. "Fairy Tales And Moral Values: A Corpus-Based Approach." Brazilian English Language Teaching Journal 3.1 (2012): 133-145. Education Source. Web. 30 Nov. 2016.Gbone42 (talk) 18:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Dégh, Linda. “Grimm's ‘Household Tales’ and Its Place in the Household: The Social Relevance of a Controversial Classic.” Western Folklore, vol. 38, no. 2, 1979, pp. 83–103. www.jstor.org/stable/1498562.Gbone42 (talk) 22:31, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Zipes, Jack. “The Contamination of the Fairy Tale, or The Changing Nature of the Grimms' Fairy Tales.” Journal of the Fantastic in the Arts, vol. 11, no. 1 (41), 2000, pp. 77–93. www.jstor.org/stable/43308420. Lorenx17 (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Action taken

I have deleted the "See also" section, the video game reference, and two of the three sources. A few minor changes to the beginning have been made.Gbone42 (talk) 00:17, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Started revision of synopsis. Made adjustments to remove irrelevant information and create flow.Gbone42 (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

adding an analysis section to provide an area for future analysis Gbone42 (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a list of the characters in the story after the synopsis Lorenx17 (talk) 03:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a drawing of Hans my Hedgehog illustration by Maurice Sendak Lorenx17 (talk) 03:26, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I revised parts of the synopsis to create more flow Mtemaat (talk) 03:27, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a area discussing the ideas of clothing as a means to an end of achieving the ideal I. This was added to provide a potential lens through which one might perceive the storyGbone42 (talk) 18:00, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a section regarding the morals that are seen in folk tales and why they were taught/included in the stories. This information provides readers with a reason for why the story was written and how it was used to shape children. Gbone42 (talk) 18:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I added more info to the character section to provide readers with a quick explanation each characters role. Deleted the Queen and blacksmith because their roles were so minimal they were almost nonexistent.Gbone42 (talk) 19:10, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a gender section to explain the interaction between characters and how that determines the "gender" of the story.Gbone42 (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I added a paragraph with the other adaptations on Hans my hedgehog. Lorenx17 (talk) 18:35, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I added to the television section and cited a source Mtemaat (talk) 18:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I added a section regarding transformation to further explain how Hans became a full human and added more to the beginning to give a quick insight to what the book is about.Gbone42 (talk) 18:44, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I added a section with the abstract elements present in the tale, and cited an author n the reference section. I also linked the article with other Wikipedia Pages in order to provide a more professional layout.Lorenx17 (talk) 19:08, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I added additional to the "moral" section to provide more depth. Mtemaat (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I added addition information and analysis to "abstract elements" Mtemaat (talk) 21:01, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I made another section to better organize the article. Mtemaat (talk) 06:08, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

I made final revisions to look for any mistakes or misspellings Mtemaat (talk) 04:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Cultural influence?

The tale begins:

Es war einmal ein Bauer,

der hatte viel Geld und Gut,

On the other hand, I recall a german drinking song

Es war einmal ein Hamster,

der hatte der Weiber vier.

Coincidence or ...? - Altenmann >talk 00:01, 5 May 2020 (UTC)