Talk:Hansard Global

Proposed changes

Can I propose the below changes as this page is very out of date. I have read your messages regarding conflict of interests, however this information is factual and not in any way promoting and particular point. It is purely an update to make the information current: Side bar: Type: Public Traded as: LSE: HSD Industry: Financial Services Founded: 1970 HQ: Isle of Man Key People: Dr Leonard Polonsky (CBE), Group President. Gordon Marr, Group Chief Executive Number of employees: 215 approx AUM: USD 1bn (2015) Revenue: GBP 105.6m (2015) Operating Income: GBP 14.9m (before tax) (2015) Net Income: GBP 14.9m (after tax) (2015)

Top section Hansard Global plc is a leading financial services company, listed on the London Stock Exchange. History The Hansard group was formed in 1970 by Dr Leonard Polonsky. Hansard Global plc was listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2006, the fourth largest stock exchange in the world. Operations From its head office in the Isle of Man, Hansard International (authorised by the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority) has been providing innovative financial products and services for international clients since 1987. Hansard International operates in multiple jurisdictions, servicing the investment needs of over 40,000 clients, working with over 528 advisors in up to 13 different languages. Hansard International is one of only two Isle of Man companies that can claim to have retained its original identity, name and focus since its formation. Hansard International also has long-standing relationships with some of the largest and most reputable asset management companies in the world, including Fidelity, BlackRock, Alquity and JP Morgan. Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 13:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

May I ask: what do you mean by a "leading" company, and by "innovative", and "reputable"? Please note that on Wikipedia all articles should be written from a WP:Neutral point of view, and most of what you're proposing sounds like it's straight off a company brochure. Please also note that references are needed from WP:Secondary, WP:Reliable sources to WP:Verify all the numbers you're asserting above. Thanks, NeemNarduni2 (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

figures are taken from http://www.hansard.com/who-we-are/at-a-glance Hansard official website,bearing in mind the company is fully regulated by the Isle of Man Financial Services Company to be compliant - and also backed up here: http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/h/hansard-global-plc-ord-50p/company-information & http://www.allipo.com/articles/8776/ipo-hansard-global-plc-admission-to-official-list & http://www.redmayne.co.uk/research/securitydetails/summary.htm?tkr=HSD . Side bar figures are taken from the company's official report and accounts which are publically available http://www.hansard.com/investors/reports-and-presentations/reports-2016 . proof of asset management relationships http://www.alquity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Distribution-Partners-Global.pdf?force=1 & http://www.international-adviser.com/news/1020107/hansard-int-adds-fidelity-portfolios-internal-fund-range & http://www.trustnetoffshore.com/Factsheets/Factsheet.aspx?fundCode=G0FP4&univ=DD

revised copy for main body text to ensure a neutral tone:

Top section Hansard Global plc is a financial services company, listed on the London Stock Exchange. History The Hansard group was formed in 1970 by Dr Leonard Polonsky. Hansard Global plc was listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2006. Operations From its head office in the Isle of Man, Hansard International (authorised by the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority) has been providing financial products and services for international clients since 1987. Hansard International operates in multiple jurisdictions, servicing over 40,000 clients, working with over 528 advisors in up to 13 different languages. Hansard International also has long-standing relationships with some of the largest asset management companies in the world, including Fidelity, BlackRock, Alquity and JP Morgan.

I trust these links and revisions support the new copy to be factual and neutralCatherineharrop2016 (talk) 15:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi - As NeemNarduni2 says references are needed from WP:Secondary, WP:Reliable sources to WP:Verify all the numbers you're asserting above. I cannot find any independent source for any of these claims despite doing media searches: (i) 40,000 clients (ii) working with over 528 advisors (iii) 13 different languages. Dormskirk (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I have read your guides, and provided sources above. Can you advise why these are not secondary or reliable? They are from independent sources. Thank you.Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 09:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC) revised copy: Top section Hansard Global plc is a financial services company, listed on the London Stock Exchange. History The Hansard group was formed in 1970 by Dr Leonard Polonsky. Hansard Global plc was listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2006. Operations From its head office in the Isle of Man, Hansard International (authorised by the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority) has been providing financial products and services for international clients since 1987. Hansard International operates in multiple jurisdictions, servicing over 40,000 clients, working with over 500 advisors. Hansard International also has long-standing relationships with some of the largest asset management companies in the world, including Fidelity, BlackRock, Alquity and JP Morgan. Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 09:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Some of the references above are secondary sources, others appear to be press releases (therefore unreliable), posted on otherwise reliable sites. Please specify which of the references given verifies the claim of 40,000 clients, 500 advisors, and the nature of the relationship with Fidelity, BlackRock, Alquity and JP Morgan. Thanks, NeemNarduni2 (talk) 10:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, thanks you for your help on this. proof of asset management relationships http://www.alquity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Distribution-Partners-Global.pdf?force=1 & http://www.international-adviser.com/news/1020107/hansard-int-adds-fidelity-portfolios-internal-fund-rang e & http://www.trustnetoffshore.com/Factsheets/Factsheet.aspx?fundCode=G0FP4&univ=DD clients: http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/h/hansard-global-plc-ord-50p/company-information advisors: http://www.redmayne.co.uk/research/securitydetails/summary.htm?tkr=HSD . I understand where you state re press release with the International Advisor source however can you advise how it's different to the accepted sources: http://uk.reuters.com/article/hansard-global-ipo-idUKNOA32789220061213 http://uk.reuters.com/article/hansard-global-ipo-idUKNOA32789220061213 thank you Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 11:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I've added in a sentence about their relationship with Fidelity and Alquity. I can't see anything about BlackRock or JP Morgan in the refs above. To answer your question, the Reuters article appears to be a financial news article written independently of the company, and not a press release. NeemNarduni2 (talk) 11:20, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

thanks, can you please advise why the copy below is not suitable to replace that which is currently there and out of date/incomplete - I have included what is currently there. I see the style of copy to be neutrally in line with that of Zurich Insurance Group as a comparison. Also, are the advisor and client base sources not verifiable, I note no comment on this since my re-supply? revised copy: Top section Hansard Global plc is a financial services company, listed on the London Stock Exchange. History : The Company was formed by Dr Leonard Polonsky, as the Liberty Life Assurance Company, in 1970.[2] It was first listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2006 in a £357 million flotation which generated £99 million for its founder. Operations: From its head office in the Isle of Man, Hansard International (authorised by the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority) has been providing financial products and services for international clients since 1987. Hansard International services over 40,000 clients, working with over 450 advisors. Hansard International also has long-standing relationships with asset management companies including Fidelity and Alquity. The Group is involved in the provision of life assurance services primarily in the Far East, Latin America and Middle East.[4]Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 11:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for a secondary, reliable source on the 40K clients and 500 advisors. What's a "long-standing relationship"? NeemNarduni2 (talk) 11:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

both redmayne and hl.co.uk support the advisor figures (changed to 450 in copy above). long-standing removed. I will be in touch re clients. If copy could go on as below in the mean-time? Thanks again for your help towards getting the information on the encyclopedia entry for Hansard Global to be current and correct. revised copy: Top section: Hansard Global plc is a financial services company, listed on the London Stock Exchange. History : The Company was formed by Dr Leonard Polonsky, as the Liberty Life Assurance Company, in 1970.[2] It was first listed on the London Stock Exchange in 2006 in a £357 million flotation which generated £99 million for its founder. Operations: From its head office in the Isle of Man, Hansard International (authorised by the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority) has been providing financial products and services for international clients since 1987. Hansard International services its clients, working with over 450 advisors. Hansard International also has relationships with asset management companies including Fidelity and Alquity. The Group is involved in the provision of life assurance services primarily in the Far East, Latin America and Middle East. Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 12:20, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by: : "services its clients", "working with", "relationships with", "involved in"? . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:34, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

I refer you back to the Zurich life page which contains similar tone to that I am trying to convey as a guide - and I note also, the body text incorporates substantiation from the Company's own website which I have been advised is not allowed: "According to its website, Zurich Community Trust has donated over £60 million since 1972, with the goal of addressing key social issues. It has supported over 600 charities a year, making a measurable impact on the lives of over 80,000 people.[15] Zurich was one of the first recipients of the Community Mark from Business in the Community which it has successfully retained for three years.[16]" . "services" in a way an company does to it's stakeholders (there is no bias indication here towards the level of service) "works with" "relationships" in a way any company does with it's stakeholders (again no indication to promote/negatively view these relationships). I have no comment on "involved in" this is copy that has been preapproved and added to the site. Catherineharrop2016 (talk) 17:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)