Talk:Hansel and Gretel (opera)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by DpMusicman in topic Strauss image

MOdern Version

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  • Saw the New York Metropolitian Version last night--a "modernized" version-a garage instead of a forest; a modern oven instead of a "magic oven" {UGH}-the Simpsons Version was better than this!!

music

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There is nothing said about the music of the opera other than the one line about folklike music. I think some points should be made:

(1) Although original written for a children's play, the parts for Hansel and Gretel are too difficult to be sung by children. Gretel's "birdcall" song actually goes above high C and requires a coloratura soprano. An alto or mezzo sings Hansel, in the "trouser-role" tradition.

(2) The frightening forest sounds, and some of the Witch's part, are written on the style of Richard Wagner, for whom Humperdinck had worked earlier in life.

(3) The most famous excerpt is the Children's Prayer at the end of Act II; the tune is first sung by the women playing the children, then elaborated by the orchestra during the following vision of the fourteen angels. The tune oddly resembles the American Navy Hymn. CharlesTheBold (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Title

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It's always known in the Anglosphere by its English title - "Hansel and Gretel". Any objections to moving it to "Hansel and Gretel (opera)"? -- JackofOz (talk) 21:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Good, no objections. Duly moved. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:39, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
In case anyone does get a bee in their bonnet over the move, I support the new English language title.4meter4 (talk) 14:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
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This could be a potential confuser, as apart from him being the conductor of the premiere, there isn't much reason for him to be highlighted as much as is currently depicted. This should instead probably be a picture of Humperdinck himself. DpMusicman (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Richard Strauss is mentioned 3 times in the article as its conductor at the premiere. His picture is next to the 3rd mention. I don't see much potential for confusion, except for the most casual reader, in which case I suspect they will re-read the article – a good thing. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
That's fair, I just think that a picture of Humperdinck as well in the article would be welcome for sure, i.e. if Strauss is featured prominently, why isn't Humperdinck? DpMusicman (talk) 03:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply