Talk:Happenings Ten Years Time Ago
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editVirreFriberg: An image or two is a nice addition to the article, but the photo that was added is of the 75 Dean Street, Soho, London, studio location. In 1966, it appears that the studio was at 129 Kingsway, Holborn, London. To be accurate, the current photo should be replaced with another, earlier photo, or removed altogether. Thanks. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Tkbrett (talk · contribs) 12:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Review to come shortly. Tkbrett (✉) 12:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking this on. I've used quote boxes in several GAs, but this was the first time someone pointed out that quote marks aren't needed. I suppose I have to make some changes. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Do you have Christpher Hjort's book Strange Brew: Eric Clapton & the British Blues Boom 1965–1970? I wonder if it would have any info on this song's recording date, though maybe not since it was after Clapton left the group.
- I looked through it a couple of times a while back and felt it was more of a generalist overview without any information that I didn't already have access to elsewhere. There's no google preview available to me now, but I doubt if it has any better details.
- Gotcha. I don't have access to it and probably won't buy it since it's not really relevant to the things I edit, but I figured I'd make sure you were at least aware of it.
- The article uses British English everywhere except for one spot: in the lead, "lineup" (American spelling) rather than "line-up" (British). You probably also ought to add a Brit English tag to clarify.
- Fixed & added temp. (typo actually, "line up" is American). How's your Cockney? I've never been able to hear what Beck is saying except "why you gotta wear ya long hair?" (he begins at 1:49 on this video[1])
- Ah, that's funny, I didn't realize there was a noun-verb distinction for lineup/line up. The script I have on here for auto editing a page to a certain language style just changes everything to "lineup" for American English.
- I have no idea how the various authors can hear anything. All I hear is "Why you all wear your long hair?" and maybe "crumpet".
- In note [a], the last bit confused me. In particular: ... and in another interview, he "confirmed that Relf wrote its lyrics about reincarnation during an acid trip". Introducing the quotation with "in another interview" made me expect that you were going to directly quote McCarty, but the wording of the quotation makes me think you're actually quoting biographer Greg Russo. If you're quoting Russo, you should paraphrase the quotation or make it clear you're not quoting McCarty.
- Agree, clarified.
- ... writes group chronicler Greg Russo. Having Russo's name at the end of such a long quotation made me wonder whose words I was reading. I think the attribution should appear upfront.
- Agree, broke up and reworded.
- Citation needed: In Vancouver, Canada, it reached No. 8 on CKLG's "Boss 40".
- Removed. I was hoping to find a RS for this.[2] In McGinnis' "References", he links to another website that has reproduced weekly charts (not actual scanned images). No big deal, maybe add him as an external link?
- Sure, I don't think the external links criteria apply to GAs anyway.
- Not an issue for the GA criteria but if you were going to nominate this for featured status, I'd recommend paraphrasing much of the retrospective assessment section as it's a bit quote-heavy. A good guide is WP:RECEPTION.
- It's a bad habit I picked up early on in dealing with a very prolific Led Zeppelin sockpuppet, who reverted everything that wasn't a direct quote. I'll try to incorporate some of the linked suggestions.
- Copyvio only highlights quotations, indicating no copyright issues.
Great read. Nice work. I see you've already noticed the edits I made as I went through – if you have no issues with those, then the above comments are all I have to remark upon. Tkbrett (✉) 21:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed your issues. Thanks again. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- All looks good. ✓ Pass Tkbrett (✉) 21:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 12:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
... that a review for "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" by Penny Valentine said "I have had enough of this sort of excuse for music."?Source: French, David (2020). Heart Full of Soul: Keith Relf of the Yardbirds. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. ISBN 978-1-4766-8011-8. Page 92.
Improved to Good Article status by Ojorojo (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 02:43, 15 November 2022 (UTC).
- We can do better than yet another hook built around some critic saying something outrageous about the work given how well researched the article is. How about:
- ALT1:... that Jimi Hendrix told Jeff Beck he "swiped" the latter's feedback sounds in The Yardbirds' "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" for later work of his own?Martin Power, Hot Hired Guitar: The Life of Jeff Beck, 2014. Daniel Case (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- We can do better than yet another hook built around some critic saying something outrageous about the work given how well researched the article is. How about:
- Interesting and well-written article on a song that was first overlooked and then became influential. Sources are fine, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The original hook is not up to say anything about when where what this is, - don't expect readers to know already from the title. The second does it but reads a bit complex. Some will know Jeff Beck, but will the others want to find out? Two things struck me as unusual: the double guitar lead, and the imitated European police sirens. Or what else? If nothing new, please reword ALT1 with the piece in front, - Hendrix there is a bit misleading, and would absorb all the clicks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt:} how's this? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:44, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that the feedback sounds in The Yardbirds' "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" were later "swiped" by Jimi Hendrix?
- better, thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt:} how's this? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:44, 27 December 2022 (UTC)