Talk:Har Mar Mall/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ruby2010 (talk · contribs) 02:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

As a MN native, I couldn't resist this one. Claiming for review, should begin posting comments within a few days. Ruby 2010/2013 02:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• The article is well-written but short, especially considering its long history. I've tried researching some additional content you could add, and came up with the following:

• More details on its history. This Minnesota Historical Society book may provide some useable information on the mall's (now closed) theater, for example. I also found this article about its original completion by the Slawiks that might help (ah, I see you're using this already – but I think there is more that can be pulled from it). Also this Harvard study?
• More details about 1981 update (after tornado). What changed about its appearance?
• More analysis of current state of mall? [1]
• Apparently the mall has inspired one singer! Mention somewhere? [2] [3] [4] I see he is currently in the See also section, but I wonder if it would be better to incorporate into the prose somewhere?
• Split out the information about current tenants or occupants into a new section, which would allow you to expand that further. I looked at other architecture GAs for ideas and found this, this, this, and this. Possible sources to help expansion: [5] [6]

• This article claims that the mall was done by architecture firm Fendler Patterson. Could you check that?
• This 2008 article mentions "Representatives of the New York firm behind the $10 million to $12 million makeover of Har Mar Mall in Roseville". Could you look into what this makeover might have entailed?
• "To compete with the opening of nearby Rosedale Center, it went through a significant expansion in 1971." Source?
• News citations should use the =work parameter, as that allows the source to be italicized (such as Pioneer Press)
• Dates should be American format (e.g. April 12, 2015 not 12 April 2015)

I realize it may be difficult to find additional information for some of my content suggestions above, but let me know what you think. Even a little further expansion would help the article tremendously. Placing review on hold, please reply here with any questions or comments. Thanks! Ruby 2010/2013 17:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Ruby2010: Thanks for your review! I have been extremely busy and although I expect to comply to your suggestions shortly, it may take longer than seven days. I hope you understand, thanks. Carbrera (talk) 01:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

• No problem at all, take your time! There's no rush. Ruby 2010/2013 01:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Ruby2010: Well that's Minnesota-nice for you; I've seen other editors on here that strictly instruct the 7-day suggestion and rarely allow exceptions. Thanks for being understanding; I'm from St. Michael by the way–oh dontcha know? Carbrera (talk) 01:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

• Yeah, I don't usually see the need to impose a review deadline, as long as changes are made within a reasonable time period! It must be MN Nice after all (sometimes I think this site could benefit more from this outlook...!) —Warm regards from a Northfield native, Ruby 2010/2013 02:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

@Carbrera:, @Ruby2010: Hi, no activity here since a month? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Actually, I expanded the article about two days ago. It should be done within the day :) Carbrera (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ruby2010: Could you look over it again? Thanks!! Carbrera (talk) 18:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Shoot, not sure how I missed this ping. I will take another look shortly. Ruby 2010/2013 14:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ruby2010: Sorry to bother you, but any word? Carbrera (talk) 03:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

After making a few copyedits, I think the article looks good. Passing for GA. Nice work! Ruby 2010/2013 22:41, 23 June 2016 (UTC)