Talk:Harry Harvey (Medal of Honor, 1865)

Requested move 22 July 2018

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Moved. These pages will be renamed as proposed for two main reasons: there is strong general agreement in this discussion that the articles should be moved, and in the main category, when the names are the same and qualifiers are used, the qualifiers are formed exactly as proposed here:

(Medal of Honor, <year received>)

So the rough consensus below to rename these pages as proposed appears to be consistent with the standard shown by other like entries in the category. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  17:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

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• Harry Harvey (soldier) → Harry Harvey (Medal of Honor, 1865)
• Harry Harvey (Medal of Honor) → Harry Harvey (Medal of Honor, 1901)

– Incomplete disambiguation for both Harry Harveys. Partially related RMs are also currently active at Talk:Michael E. Thornton#Requested move 27 June 2018 and at Talk:Walter Anderson (GC)#Requested move 11 July 2018.    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:13, 22 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 18:46, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - disambiguation should not refer to awards. -- Netoholic @ 08:33, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
• 1 - Oppose per my support at Talk:Walter Anderson (GC)#Requested move 11 July 2018

2 - Move to Harry Harvey (Marine) jamacfarlane (talk) 23:16, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

• Comment. Suffice it to glance at Category:United States Army Medal of Honor recipients or at anyone else under Category:Recipients of the Medal of Honor by branch of service to confirm that nearly all entries, which require a qualifier, use "(Medal of Honor)". Also, there are almost no Wikipedia entries that use the qualifier "(Marine)", likely because of the perception that a Marine is also a soldier or because of a misunderstanding of what is the meaning of "Marine".    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:27, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
  • I recognise that limitation, but oppose using dates of birth (as suggested below) as above being unnecessary double disambiguation, using "soldier" instead of "marine" enforces the contentious idea that U.S. Marines are soldiers and does not present a WP:NPOV. If not "Harry Harvey (marine)" how about "Harry Harvey (U.S. Marine)"? jamacfarlane (talk) 21:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom. This is why they're notable. This is how we disambiguate. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:48, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
• Rename to Harry Harvey (soldier, born 1846) and Harry Harvey (soldier, born 1873). The current titles aren't acceptable, but I agree with Netoholic that the date of receiving a Medal of Honor isn't a good way to disambiguate. Birth year is standard when all else fails. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Except the second one wasn't a soldier! There's nothing marines like less than being referred to as soldiers! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:38, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
• Comment. There are 1303 pages in Category:United States Marines. Two have the disambiguator "(Marine)", one "(U.S. Marine)", one "(Korean War soldier)", none plain "(soldier)". Dekimasuよ! 01:27, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Dekimasu's comment. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk | contribs} 21:30, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

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