Talk:Harry Kim (Star Trek)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 12:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• "appeared across all seven seasons" --> "appeared in all seven seasons" or "appeared in each of the seven seasons"? Across sounds strange.
  • Fixed as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• The difficulty in casting the part is of enough interest for the lead, but do we benefit from knowing who directed the pilot and thus was involved in the casting?
  • I've trimmed Kolbe out of the lead. Miyagawa (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• When transwarp drive is a link to transwarp drive, I was expecting first possible route home to be a link to an article about the USS Voyager's actual expedition home. While I'm not entirely against linking to the episode, I think that the writing can hold up without the link.
  • I've dropped the link to "Eye of the Needle". Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• While Wang appearing as Kim in Renegades is notable enough for the lead, it's deceptive to say that he returned to Star Trek, and his role in Of Gods and Men isn't that relevant for this section. Further down in the article, you might even consider just saying that Wang has been in two fan-produced productions, including as Kim in Renegades, ie not mention the other role by name. It's relevant to Wang, not to Ensign Kim.
  • I've trimmed out the Of Gods and Men stuff. Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• Is the media outlet name relevant for the lead? This content is interesting enough to sumarize at the top, but would it make a difference if it was another outlet?
  • I've redrafted that part of the lead and dropped the links to both The AV Club and Den of Geek. Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Concept

• "a list of TV's 50 Sexiest Men" I'm a little worried about citing this. It's a slideshow/list, that does cite its sources. Can you back this up?
  • I thought I'd go with a gut instinct and figure that it was a People magazine list. Turns out I was right - Wang was included in the list of 50 sexiest people alive in 1997 by the magazine (I always love when magazines like that have online archives). As for UGO itself, I would certainly hope that it is reliable - I've argued in the past that TrekNation was notable because of an affiliation with UGO and so had never considered that UGO wasn't. Miyagawa (talk) 21:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• Aren't fan productions more connected with reception? If he wasn't liked, they wouldn't have cast him, right?
  • Well I figured that it wouldn't fit into the Appearences section as they weren't official appearances. I can see your point, and I've moved the line to the end of the reception section. Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Relaunch novels

• It might be worth noting when the non-canon novels were published, in relation to the end of the series, to show whether this is a short time later relaunch, or long time.
  • I've redrafted to include the years published. Miyagawa (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
• Come to think of it, nowhere in the article is it noted when the series (and thus the role) started or ended, just the episode names. It would help keep the biography in context of real life.
  • I've worked the start year and end year into the article. Miyagawa (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

A start of a review. -- Zanimum (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in further review.

• I've made a bunch of changes.
• When first mentioned, most characters' names are followed by that of their actors. Neelix and The Doctor are missed.
• BBC Cult refs need to be merged, as I presume they're the same page.

I'll look over Reception tonight, offline. I did both appearances and reception reviews offline in a file, but I don't know where they are on my system, so I restarted. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

• No problem. I've added Robert Picardo and Ethan Phillips on their first mentions. The BBC Cult bits are actually separate pages. They basically have these interviews where each question and response is on a subpage. So I've cited four subpages rather than the index page which doesn't include the text from the subpages. Miyagawa (talk) 18:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yup, rereading everything, it's a strong article. Pass! -- Zanimum (talk) 14:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

(Wow, I didn't realize how rare this sort of review ranking is for ST characters. Khan's an FA, Tasha Yar a GA, and Harry's it, otherwise. Kudos. -- Zanimum (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)