Talk:Hassan al-Turabi

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Some possible further topics:

• Turabi's Involvement in the Imposition of Shari'a Law in 1983
• More biographical information -- education, etc

Some of the stuff about OBL seems like it might be more appropriate on his page rather than here, unless more details about Turabi's role is specifically explained.

--babbage 09:54, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Al-Qaida category

Is there evidence that associates Turabi directly with Al-Qaeda? If there is, it should be included, if not, the category is inappropriate. --babbage 05:26, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No at all. He himself denied that repeatedly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.64.19 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 7 May 2006

I haven't heard anything about suspicions that he still associates with them, but of course he was reportedly the one who invited OBL to Sudan in the '90s. It would be interesting to find out what he's been up to lately. --Mr. Billion 05:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

No source other than the 9/11 Commission links Turabi with Al-Qaeda and even that's limited. OBL was exiled to Sudan as part of an agreement between the Saudi's (who wanted to rid themselves of an irksome but well-connected dissident) and Sudan (heavily reliant on Saudi trade and aid), with the blessing (and some have speculated at the behest) of the US intelligence and security services; (remember that without the benefit of the retrospectoscope, there was little about OBL's political CV in the early 90s that would have marked him out as America's future most-wanted). The 9/11 Commission's report in respect to Turabi is fascinating not in what links it does describe, but in its reticence to suggest anything more recent or concrete. Very few academic commentators would credit any suggestion of ongoing links between Turabi or his affiliate organisations and Al-Qaeda, and in 4 years of doctoral research in the area, I have yet to come across any link - proven or speculated. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has.

In terms of what he's been up to lately, (I assume you mean 1996-2006), well that's all pretty well documented as well. Have to say I think Babbage has a point. The profile as-is could be criticised on grounds of verifiability and the all-important 'Wiki-neutrality'. A shame for something that will probably be referred to so frequently. If I get the time I'll chip in with updates.
--HQBPTS 04:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Al-Turabi seems to have grown very reliant on external funding, giving shelter to anyone willing to pay. It would be both to reduce their reliance on Saudi funding, which gave them leverage against them and the difficult economic conditions they faced.

See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sudan#History_since_independence< BR>Santegidio (talk) 23:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Unique approach

-should include something on his rather unique approach to Shari'a. For example his views on apostasy, and his views on marriage. A lot more could be written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.206.181 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 29 May 2006

Re 'Unique approach'

-there's already an external link to an article on the sudan tribune about this; in-depth interview. these views could be re-iterated but should not be painted as apostasy without reference to a verifiable, source religious opinion. most commentators in the english-language middle-eastern media seem to be critical of inflammatory reporting of turabi's comments with a few painting his interpretations as progressive but not radical. either way, if anyone does take this on, it needs to remain objective.

Another Hassan al-Turabi

A prominent Shi'a cleric, also named Hassan al-Turabi was murdered recently. How should we go about making two distinct articles about both of these characters? BhaiSaab ^talk 01:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Turabi in this article was NOT killed this week, am I right? I am deleting that part of his life story. Yes, a disambiguation is necessary.--Zachbe 18:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. The Turabi in this article was not killed this week. BhaiSaab ^talk 21:18, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

article lacks focus, narrative structure

This article jumps around far too much, and fails to adequately describe the evolution of Turabi's role in al-Bashir's government (ie from legitimating tool to threat which had to be removed). It also concentrates on the al-Qaida/Darfur nonsense far too much.81.10.20.238jackbrown

The article for al-Bashir is more complete: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_al-Bashir#Tensions_with_al-Turabi Santegidio (talk) 23:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Unreliable tag

What is unreliable about the 9/11 commission report? --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Strange wording

The first sentence ends, "...who may have been instrumental in institutionalizing sharia in the northern part of the country" (emphasis mine). Huh?? I'm no expert on Sudan, but is this something that's questioned or doubted?--BDD (talk) 07:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

O my god I came here because of the very same word and it's 2016! I was going to ask how exactly it was doubtful. Is it contested by some authority? Were the circumstances at the time such that one couldn't tell who did what? Or maybe it's poor English for something like "he was partially responsible"?—Arpose (talk) 11:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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article lacks focus, narrative structure This article jumps around far too much, and fails to adequately describe the evolution of Turabi's role in al-Bashir's government (ie from legitimating tool to threat which had to be removed). It also concentrates on the al-Qaida/Darfur nonsense far too much.81.10.20.238jackbrown

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Hasan Al-Turabi → Hassan al-Turabi – This page was recently moved to "Hasan Al-Turabi" User:Teklobus (Who has since been blocked for being a sockpuppet of User:SheryOfficial), they moved the page citing WP:MOSAR, claiming that the name with one "Hassan" was "much commonly and correctly spelled Hasan". After reviewing all the references on the page I could access I found that 33 of them spelled the name "Hassan" and only 3 spelled in "Hasan" with this in mind I think that the page should be moved to Hassan al-Turabi. DervotNum4 (talk) 19:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom and it is rarely that I saw Hassan al-Turabi's name written with one 's'. giving the weight of sources this should be a non conversional move FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Support In case that wasn't clear by my initial write up and for the reasons I mentioned above. DervotNum4 (talk) 15:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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