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Real name
editHer real name is Hat-Ur it is a fusion of her own name Hat with Ur (Ophois).
The hieroglyphic name for Hat-Ur translates to House of Sky not House of Hor (Horus). The bird hieroglyph represents freedom (sky, big blue). 86.129.228.101 (talk) 06:01, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that "house of Horus" shouldn't be in the head like that. I read one source that said such a reading / writing was rebus-like, while we claim it's "literal." I haven't looked deeply into it but I suspect it was one of those cleverish folk etymologies to the contemporary.
- Temerarius (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a source on your claims there? My interest is piqued.
- Temerarius (talk) 00:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- As the text of the article says, scholars usually translate the name as "house of Horus", but some interpret it as "my house is the sky". The translation in the lead sentence was added after the body text was written, and I wouldn't object to its removal. A. Parrot (talk) 01:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Calling a woman a "house", if anciently familiar, is odd. Surely that's not the etymological origin of the name? I think it has the sound of a "contemporary etymology" and requires above-average sourcing and specificity of explanation. First we should get closeup photos of reliefs where her name is spelled out in variations, and transcriptions of same. What's the source meaning of "house" in Egyptian? Is it a reference to the place where you "stop," "rest," "sleep," what?
- Temerarius (talk) 20:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- The word ḥwt could also mean "enclosure", "mansion", "palace", "estate", "temple", "chapel", or "administrative district". (Faulkner, Raymond O. (1962). A Concise Dictionary of Middle Egyptian, pp. 165–166; Allen, James P. (2014). Middle Egyptian: An Introduction to the Language and Culture of Hieroglyphs. p. 524.) But translations of Hathor's name always seem to render it as "house". A. Parrot (talk) 00:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- As the text of the article says, scholars usually translate the name as "house of Horus", but some interpret it as "my house is the sky". The translation in the lead sentence was added after the body text was written, and I wouldn't object to its removal. A. Parrot (talk) 01:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)