Talk:Hauntology (music)

Merger proposal

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To not merge, given that hauntology is of significance to music and readers are best served by having this covered separately. Klbrain (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

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I propose merging Hauntology (music) into Hauntology. The article detailing the "genre" isn't distinct enough to warrant its own article and actively repeats material from the general article. A merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Hauntology.DMT Biscuit (talk) 08:02, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

• Merge No vote for now (see reply below) Never quite understood why Hauntology (music) was created. It's not like the topic is so vast and expansive that we'd ever have articles like Hauntology (art) and Hauntology (film). ili (talk) 14:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
• Merge agree, a single comprehensive article would be better, manifestation in music just one aspect. Acousmana 09:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
• Don't merge. The tendency is that this will become designated as a separate music genre with its own infobox and categories, containing sub-genres like vaporwave, hypnagogic pop, chillwave, etc. Solidest (talk) 09:18, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
• Don’t merge They're two entirely different usages—one philosophical-academic, and one a more informal label for a musical trend. They were originally one page and were split because the music section seemed very unrelated to the Derrida stuff beyond the intellectual inspiration. Kkollaps (talk) 13:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

I think if you want to make a stronger case for separate articles, then the Hauntology page needs to have a more distinct identity. This can be achieved by expanding the article to be more than just a few paragraphs. In any case, I rescind my vote only because the current formatting isn't "broken" per se. However, I hope you can understand that it is weird that we have a subtopic, Hauntology (music), that is two times larger than the parent topic, Hauntology, which itself is only 600 words long. ili (talk) 16:27, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

They're not a parent topic and subtopic, they're two entirely different topics with only an etymological connection. Don't merge. BlueBanana (talk) 14:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

• Don't merge. My point for not merging lies in that the concept of hauntology is already overly overloaded. Even the current article describes it a loose genre, so to me, it makes sense to group "audible" hauntology separately from "conceptual hauntology", or otherwise the single "hauntology" article will be overloaded with too many topics to talk about at once. That's not good for reading comprehension and systematization. For me, merging would be akin to merging "psychedelic music" to "psychedelic culture". So strong oppose 178.121.12.165 (talk) 09:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I k 'deletion' not identical 2 'merger', but -

Simon Reynolds in 2011 remarked,

how can you call time on a genre so self-consciously untimely? “Consensus to Delete” a/k/a the debate at Wikipedia about whether or not to erase the entry on ‘Hauntology (musical genre)’. ... But look, look, how carefully and scrupulously they preserve (“do not modify”) the record of their own deliberations.

FatalSubjectivities (talk) 10:57, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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