Talk:Heathen (David Bowie album)

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Conversation Piece was really re-recorded in Toy-sessions in 2000, not 2002 as the album-cover says. My source for the information is Nichola jack becomes heathaned

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Found this page via the Jordan Rudess page which says he played on this album. However on the page it actually stated 'Dream Theater veteran keyboardist Anthony Rowe', I have changed this to 'Dream Theater veteran keyboardist Jordan Rudess' and I have also corrected the information in the actual personnel section.

Music videos

This section says: "For this reason there are no music videos for any of the songs from this album", but what about the video available in Youtube here? It's a very official music video uploaded by Vevo channel. The reference for the information is from a text in Entertainment Weekly by Jeff Gordinier, and although the same section says Bowie wouldn't performance the songs of the album in TV, there's a lot of videos of it in Youtube, like in Jools Holland show in 2002. Perhaps we need some verification. NandO ^ta_lk! 06:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Perhapse my prose is a little unspecific. What Bowie said was there are no official music videos for any of the songs from this album. When I look at the videos on Youtube, they're either all fan-made tributes or recordings of live performances. Unfortunately the link you've shared doesn't work in my region so I cannot view it. I'm happy to update the language to be more specific if you think it's confusing. 87Fan (talk) 17:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not confusing, it's written exactly what you meant, but I think it's not true, because there's a official video of "Slow Burn", which is from this album. Then the sentence For this reason there are no music videos for any of the songs from this album is not true. Are you sure Jeff Gordinier wrote it or you wrote? NandO ^ta_lk! 20:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

The exact quote is "Gordinier:But for Heathen, you're not making one? [one being 'a music video']. Bowie: No. I wouldn't be played anyway. Gordinier: The guy who made the seminal "Ashes to Ashes" video is not making a video?" Bowie: I'm pretty much a realist..." and then the quote continues as I've quoted in the article. I'm not sure how that can be unclear. Do we have a source that says Bowie did make a video for Slow Burn? 87Fan (talk) 06:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't have a source, I have a link for the video LOL. I wonder if Bowie contradicted himself or if that video was not to be released, but it came out later. NandO ^ta_lk! 20:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

The "Slow burn" video that can be found online is indeed official, but it wasnt a full blown music video. It was just a short mimed perfomence used in tv commercials at the time and probably in the Heathen EPK.--87.212.162.229 (talk) 12:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

How could a yank go about seeing this video? I really want to now but it's blocked in the States as far as I can tell. 73.51.205.186 (talk) 02:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Realmaxxver (talk · contribs) 14:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Placeholder. Realmaxxver (talk) 14:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Realmaxxver My bad I completely forgot about this. Responded to current queries. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 23:31, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Realmaxxver It's been two months now can we please move this along? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 20:54, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Visconti also brought back the vocal sound previously utilised on the song "'Heroes'" (1977) for "Sunday" and "I Would Be Your Slave", wherein three microphones were set up at different distances from the singer, each opening up when Bowie sang at the appropriate volume.[8]" I think "vocal effect" would work better.

• Done

• Interview and Diamond Dogs are already linked in the previous sections

• Done

• "Described by Buckley as "sombre, moody, spiritually questing and reflective",[8] the album continues the "spirituality" of Outside (1995), Earthling (1997) and Hours (1999) and presents Bowie's strong reflections on ageing." → "Described by Buckley as "sombre, moody, spiritually questing and reflective",[8] the album continues the "spirituality" of Outside (1995), Earthling (1997) and Hours (1999), while also presenting Bowie's strong reflections on ageing."

• Done

• "Bowie sitting at a Spartan school-desk with is pen in the air above a blank page." "is" → "his"

• Done

• "Columbia chairman Don Ienner" capitalise surname

• That's an I not an L. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 15:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• "In 2016, Bryan Wawzenek of Ultimate Classic Rock placed Heathen at number 17 out of 26 in a list ranking Bowie's studio albums from worst to best, praising Bowie's comfortability on the record and calling it "distinguished, thoughtful and spirited".[70]" → "In 2016, Bryan Wawzenek of Ultimate Classic Rock placed Heathen at number 17 out of 26 in a list ranking Bowie's studio albums from worst to best, praising Bowie's comfortability on the record, calling it "distinguished, thoughtful and spirited".[70]"

• Done

• Copyvio looks good.

Putting on hold now. Realmaxxver (talk) 19:07, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

• Realmaxxver Thanks. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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