Talk:Hellenic Navy

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Added the template; feel free to edit it if you need to. I decided to use the Navy Jack as the symbol instead of the emblem, but I will use the emblem in miniature on the Military of Greece page. --Jpbrenna 30 June 2005 05:02 (UTC)

Is here anyone who can tell me something about the Fate of the former german FAC of the Jaguar-class? Greek recieved 10 of those. I've got the Names in greek Navy, but still looking for most of the Nato numbers an the Dates of decommoission and all kinds of further Informations. thx(werwil1@freenet.de)

About Jaguar-class visit http://www.ellinikos-stratos.com/eksoplismoi/torpilakatoi.asp Unfortunately the page is only in greek.(88.218.15.34 18:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC))

Hey, isnt the term "War Navy" redundant? Naftiko doesn't really mean "navy" in the English sense, because navy implies military vessels. Also Polemiko comes from the root Polemo which means war, but Polemiko means war-ish or military. Naftiko (the root of the English word nautical) is more like the term "marine," which may cause some confusion. A more literal translation would me "military marine" perhaos. I think we should juse use the term Hellenic Navy as the term "War Navy" make no sense in English. Another option might be Hellenic Military Marine, which is a better and more literal translation, but which sounds kind of strange in English. -Alexius Comnenus

Yeah, I think the Greek name is mostly closely parallel to the German Kriegsmarine, which we also somewhat inaccurately translate as "War Navy". --Delirium 09:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

In 16 March Hellenic Navy will receive two coastal mine hunters (osprey class) from US Navy.MHC 52 Heron renamed Calypso and MHC 53 Pelican renamed Euniki.Nlkrio 16:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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>25 May 2007 (11.36pm)---> kompikos: Why was the Navy Emblem image I had added, removed?? I will add it again but please, whoever removed it, explain why it is not supposed to be there if such the case. Thanks

I removed it because I put in the template instead of the naval jack. But subsequently the image was removed from the template for not meeting copyright criteria. Sorry for the confusion. PS. if you can find a real free-license version of the emblem, it'd be very useful (see here why). Regards, Cplakidas 20:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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>kompikos: The Emblems I used for all three pages of the Armed forces are licenced because they were DIRECTLY retrieved from the website: www.mlahanas.de/Greece/Military/Miltary.html. These emblems are not altered or manipulated in any way but are licenced downloads from the above website.

ALL text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/GNU/GNC.html) so there is no licencing problem. I will post this to the template page as well.

• That license applies to the text from that page, not the images. --Durin 21:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Motto

Please see the discussion here about the translation of the Motto. Argos'Dad 04:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Present Status

I deleted (actually commented out) unreferenced and unverifiable claims related to aquisition of units from the USN and to scrapping of modernization by the present government. Sv1xv (talk) 13:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thetis (class 520) gunboats

I know three of them still "exist", but are they in commission or they are awaiting disposal? Sv1xv (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

They were officially decommissioned last week. SV1XV (talk) 10:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Emblem was deleted

Could anyone upload a free image of the emblem of the Hellenic Navy because the previous was removed. - Sthenel (talk) 02:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Use of material from HN website

The copyright issues regarding re-use of material from http://www.hellenicnavy.gr are not specific enough. I sent an e-mail to the webmaster regarding this subject and they replied that material from their web site can be reused as long as the original source is stated (Attribution policy). However their permission does not address the subject of derivative work. Therefore coats of arms and similar stuff can be used under a "fair use rationale" for copyrighted material. Photographs, except for exceptional cases, are not acceptable per WP rules and should not be uploaded to Commons. Sv1xv (talk) 05:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

New Osprey class minehunters

The information about two new Osprey class minehunters from the USN is accurate, although the source cited by User:91.132.62.130 was not the best choise. See also S. 3052: Naval Vessel Transfer Act of 2008. Sv1xv (talk) 04:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Fleet

I believe the flags of the countries where ships were bought from should not be used in the fleet list. Only the greek flag should be shown next to a commissioned Hellenic Navy ship. Are there any views on this subject? Sv1xv (talk) 15:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Check WP:MILHIST if it's standard practice or not. _{El Greco}^(talk) 23:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

It seems to be standard practice for air fleet tables, but I have not seen this practice in any other major ship list in WP. Sv1xv (talk) 04:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

The formatting of the table needs some attention to line up horizontally. Davidships (talk) 22:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Submarines class 214

There was a decision by KYSEA today [1] that:

• All four class 214 submarines shall be delivered to the Navy
• Two additional 214 submarines shall be ordered in place of upgrading the last two class 209 submarines, as the cost is almost the same.

Please wait for a while before adding this info, until reliable sources become available. SV1XV (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Greek destroyer Lonchi

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FREMM

Greek NAVY did not order any FREMM yet!

Defencenet.gr is not a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.245.168.156 (talk) 03:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

2 More Super Vita Cancelled

2 More Super Vita is also Cancelled by BAE due to Greek Economic Crisis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.245.168.156 (talk) 03:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2021

Msofianop (talk) 06:19, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

| commander1 = Vice Admiral
Stylianos Petrakis | commander1_label = Chief of the Navy General Staff | commander2 = Vice Admiral
Panagiotis Lymperis | commander2_label = Chief of the Fleet Command | commander3 = Vice Admiral
Georgios Nikolaos Mpamplenis | commander3_label = Chief of the Hellenic Navy Logistic Support Command

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References

Details of British admiral who advised Greek Navy

Admiral Cyril Samuel Townsend, CB (28 June 1875 – 31 March 1949) was a Royal Navy officer.

During the First World War, Townsend saw active service during the Gallipoli Campaign, during which he was beachmaster at 'W Beach' during the Landing at Cape Helles in 1915, for which he was specially commended. He was appointed captain of HMS Constance in 1915 and took part in the Battle of Jutland that year. He was appointed a Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George "in recognition of valuable services rendered during the War" in 1918; the appointment was later cancelled and replaced with an appointment as a Companion of the Order of the Bath the same year.

After the war, Townsend was the commander of the Gunnery School at Chatham until 1921. He was appointed naval aide-de-camp to the King in 1923 and was promoted to rear-admiral in 1924.

In 1925, Townsend was appointed head of the British naval mission to Greece, with the rank of vice-admiral in the Greek Navy. The mission expanded technical and tactical training, and opened a naval college. The mission fell afoul of Greek politics and was terminated in May 1926 ostensibly on grounds of economy, the dictator Theodoros Pangalos having declared that Greek could no longer afford foreign naval missions. Townsend left in June; it was noted at the time that he was not afforded the courtesies due to his rank when he departed and that no other foreign naval mission was asked to leave the country; however, decorations were bestowed to members of the mission later on.

From 1927 to 1929, he was Admiral-Superintendent, Gibraltar Dockyard. He retired in 1929.