Talk:Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (A Letter from Camp)
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editThe box pictured is spelt with an A and Grenada (or Granada) on the page is spelt with an "e". Clarification, anyone? 63.226.28.130 17:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Leonard Skinner
editOne of the names in the song is Leonard Skinner, which happens to be the name of a former gym coach from whom rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd got their name. I'd like some opinions before I add any mention of it to the article; is the coincidence worthy of mentioning, and if so is it noteworthy enough to justify adding a "Trivia" section? Maybe someone could slightly re-write the last few paragraphs of the article and turn some of the "sightings" into trivia notes so that this little factoid isn't all alone. - Ugliness Man 16:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- What's your evidence for that? Wahkeenah 18:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're wondering what the evidence is that the band named themselves after the former gym coach, just click either article and read it for yourself. If you're wondering what the evidence is that the name Leonard Skinner appears in the song, listen to the song (I'm not about to paste song lyrics beyond what's already in the article, because I don't want to tread too closely to copyright violation). - Ugliness Man 14:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- I should have asked what your evidence is for any connection to this song, other than the coincidence of the names being the same. There's nothing in the song to suggest any connection, as it's clear Sherman was just looking for names to rhyme.
- I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're wondering what the evidence is that the band named themselves after the former gym coach, just click either article and read it for yourself. If you're wondering what the evidence is that the name Leonard Skinner appears in the song, listen to the song (I'm not about to paste song lyrics beyond what's already in the article, because I don't want to tread too closely to copyright violation). - Ugliness Man 14:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- I went hiking with Joe Spivy
- He developed poison ivy
- You remember Leonard Skinner
- He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner
- You could try posting something about, and see how long it takes for someone to shoot it down. Now, if you've got evidence that the group was partially influenced by this song, that would be something. It doesn't look like it, though. Wahkeenah 23:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Apparantly, you didn't understand my original intention. Either that, or there's some part of the word "coincidence" that you're having trouble with. I'm not suggesting there's a connection, and I'm not saying that the song inspired the band name in any way, it's just that "Leonard Skinner" is an unusual name, so the coincidence seems noteworthy. It's like how the main character in the 1986 movie Troll happens to be named Harry Potter. If you'll read the article for the movie, you'll see that it's specifically pointed out that it has nothing to do with the more well-known Harry Potter, since it would be almost impossible to do an article on anything with that name and not mention something about it. All I'm suggesting is something similar here. - Ugliness Man 10:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- As long as you make it clear its a possibly-funny coincidence, I don't have a problem with it. You can expect trouble from others (if any) who might read this and wonder why a not-really-so-unusual name is brought up. Give it a try and see what happens. Wahkeenah 22:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Apparantly, you didn't understand my original intention. Either that, or there's some part of the word "coincidence" that you're having trouble with. I'm not suggesting there's a connection, and I'm not saying that the song inspired the band name in any way, it's just that "Leonard Skinner" is an unusual name, so the coincidence seems noteworthy. It's like how the main character in the 1986 movie Troll happens to be named Harry Potter. If you'll read the article for the movie, you'll see that it's specifically pointed out that it has nothing to do with the more well-known Harry Potter, since it would be almost impossible to do an article on anything with that name and not mention something about it. All I'm suggesting is something similar here. - Ugliness Man 10:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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I have read this article and the one for Camp Granada game and I guess it was first the song and later the game. So, why is the game mentioned and linked here? It couldn't be understood then which one was first. Can anybody with knowledge on this fix that mention? Thanks. Sobreira (parlez) 22:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Title wording
editI had always assumed that "Muddah" and "Fadduh" were intended to indicate the speaker of the song was a Jewish boy, possibly from Brooklyn (see New York City English). Perhaps I'm wrong in that, but certainly I would have thought the highly distinctive wording is worthy of some comment in the article. Harfarhs (talk) 15:18, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Alan Sherman was a "Jewish" comic, doing "Jewish Humor" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.200.27.15 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
the tune comes from an Italian opera
editI just heard this on the radio, and it sounds a lot like the song this tune was also used in Disney's fantasia so that is the probably where the author heard the tune but I don'thave a reliable source for this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.245.17.105 (talk) 16:37, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Chronological order
editI have always seen "Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (A Letter from Camp)" before, not after, "The Twelve Gifts of Christmas".98.149.97.245 (talk) 05:43, 11 September 2021 (UTC)