Talk:Hello Pappy scandal/GA1

GA Review

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Starting review. Check quick fail criteria. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC) ✓ Pass Jezhotwells (talk) 20:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   • The article is mostly reasonably well written. The statement For the jackpot portion of the game, she was drawn with a white wheel is not good English, needs to be re-written. The reference in the lead to a previous political scandal would be better served by directly citing the Hello Garci scandal. The article follows WP:MOS guidelines. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC) drawn with a white wheel still needs to be re-written. How can a person be drawn with an object, except on paper. She was awarded, or she drew, or a white wheel was her lot, please re-write. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC) I have mended this as the editor did not understand my comments. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   • The article has references, #2 is a broken link. #3 is in Tagalog, can an English translation be found or provided? #4 does not support the statement in the final paragraph. I am satisfied that there is no Original Research. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC) I fixed two wikilink redirects, there are several wikilinks to disambiguation pages in the ABS-CBN but that is outside the scope of this review Jezhotwells (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC) Broken link has been been removed. Tagalog refernces in '3 nad '4 need to be replaced by links in English. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:V says that "editors should use English-language sources in preference to sources in other languages", and further on saying that this is "assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality", which I couldn't find (without it being a blog or otherwise unreliable source). However, I could translate the line for the citation involving the first tagalog ref, and the second one, most of them are quotes, and most of them are in "taglish" (aka. english with tagalog words in it, or vice-versa). I don't think that's enough to deny it from being a GA. ViperSnake151  Talk  13:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please provide the precise quote from the Tagalog or taglish and translate into English. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I found one more english language ref, lessened the dependence on the tagalog references, and put more emphasis onto Joey's speech. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone actually translated the required quotes cited from the Tagalog articles. ViperSnake151  Talk  14:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Fine that is what i asked for. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

1. It is broad in its scope.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   • The article is reasonably broad in its scope and remains focussed. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   • The article conforms to WP:NPOV Jezhotwells (talk) 21:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

   • The article history show no evidence of edit warring, no discussions on talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   • The one illustration used has a fair use rationale, I rewrote the caption slightly to improve. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   • Some slight amendments to prose style as mentioned above, also some reference fixes needed. On hold. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

   • Please find English references for those #3 & #4 in Tagalog. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

   • Please comment here not on user talk pages. This is so that others can follow the review. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• OK, I am happy to pass now. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)