Talk:Hello Sunshine (Super Furry Animals song)/GA1

GA Review

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GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   In the lead, second paragraph, where it reads "…appear on Phantom Phorce." It's not clear what Phantom Phorce is. Under "Recording and themes", where is says "…which Rhys has described as…", it's also unclaer who Rhys is. The last two paragraphs under "Recording and themes" and the first sentence under "Musical structure" are far too short and stubby. Try merging them into other paragraphs. Under "Critical response", the paragraphs are too short and stubby as well.

   Done Cavie78 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Under "Recording and themes", source five doesn't back up that "By the Sea" is the song sampled. Source five doesn't back up that the band recorded the song in their own studio in Cardiff. Source eleven doesn't back up the entire paragraph under "Musical structure". Where it begins with "This time the bridge leads…" to the end of the paragraph isn't sourced. Under "Alternative versions", the first paragraph isn't sourced.

   Source 5 is the album booklet itself - the MusicBrainz link is simply part of the standard cite template for album booklets (see Template:Cite album-notes) The rest of the 'Musical structure' is simply describing the song and doesn't need a source beyond the song itself (see Wikipedia:Citing sources#When to cite sources) Cavie78 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   Under "Recording and themes", first paragraph, it reads "…came about due to laziness on the band's part…" Did the band call itself lazy, or someone of the like? If not, just removed the laziness bit.

   Rhys says "It's just sloth. Just generally not getting around to doing it." in source 7. Cavie78 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

   No edit wars etc.:

5. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Per Wikipedia:Music samples#How much is 10%, the song samples are too long; these need to shortened to their appropriate lengths to comply with fair use.

   Have shortened the first clip - the other is ok as the remix is over ten minutes long. Cavie78 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

6. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I am placing the article on hold for seven days to allow for the above concerns to be addressed. DiverseMentality 04:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

   Thanks DiverseMentality, hope I've dealt with your concerns satisfactorily. Cavie78 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

   Almost all done, except the "Critical response" section. Try making one paragraph out of the four single-sentence paragraphs. DiverseMentality 01:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

   Sorry, forgot about that! All done now. Cavie78 (talk) 22:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

   ← All concerns have been addressed, I'm passing the article. Good work! DiverseMentality 20:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)