Talk:Hellsing: The Dawn
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English release
I'd assume the manga has not been published in English yet? I have not read the manga, but as it takes place in Warsaw, September 1944 I'd guess it is presumably set during the Warsaw Uprising? Can this be verified by somebody who has read the manga?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- It hasn't been published in English yet, but there are scans (both raw and translated) available on the internet. It actually hasn't been collected into a volume yet in Japan either, it's still coming out in YKO. Anyway, I've read all 6 chapters, and while it technically does take place during the Uprising (it's set in September of 1944; the Uprising was from August of '44 to October of '44), I don't think any references have been made so far. Schrödinger 04:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's strange. Why set it up in that timeframe if you are not going to make use of the such an important event? Of course, Hellsing is an alternative universe of sorts, so one can assume the Uprising didn't happen than - because one could not be in real Warsaw in Sept'44 and not feel the effects of the 'rising. I'll be really disappointed if the manga makes no reference to that event.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 05:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, they are at a pivotal point in the war. But no mention of the Uprising itself. I agree though, it would be a shame not to mention it. I wouldn't doubt that it's happening though; while Hellsing is alternate universe, it only contradicts the Dracula canon and the nature of Vlad's death in 1476. Other than that everything is the same, and the events of WWII are the same in Hellsing as in real life. There's a train equipped with a Karl mortar headed towards Millennium's building, but it's got a Swastika on it. I think they plan to level the building and escape, covering their tracks. Schrödinger 05:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm. What are the 'street conditions'? Is the city reasonably peaceful or not? I think I need to get my hand on the manga :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- We haven't seen what the streets are like yet. :P The camp isn't in the heart of the city, it's out in the countryside somewhere...but in the general Warsaw area. Do try to track it down, it's excellent. Schrödinger 22:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm. What are the 'street conditions'? Is the city reasonably peaceful or not? I think I need to get my hand on the manga :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, they are at a pivotal point in the war. But no mention of the Uprising itself. I agree though, it would be a shame not to mention it. I wouldn't doubt that it's happening though; while Hellsing is alternate universe, it only contradicts the Dracula canon and the nature of Vlad's death in 1476. Other than that everything is the same, and the events of WWII are the same in Hellsing as in real life. There's a train equipped with a Karl mortar headed towards Millennium's building, but it's got a Swastika on it. I think they plan to level the building and escape, covering their tracks. Schrödinger 05:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's strange. Why set it up in that timeframe if you are not going to make use of the such an important event? Of course, Hellsing is an alternative universe of sorts, so one can assume the Uprising didn't happen than - because one could not be in real Warsaw in Sept'44 and not feel the effects of the 'rising. I'll be really disappointed if the manga makes no reference to that event.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 05:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Good news, in chapter 1 (which I'm reading now) an explosion shakes the building and Doc asks if the uprising has been struck down yet. The other doctors also mention rumors about the Red Army reaching the riverbanks on the opposite side of the river, and expresses his concern about the safety of their operation. There is also a reference to Army Group B planning an offensive (most likely what will become known as the Battle of the Bulge). With the old black and white photo of the Major and the Captain in the Ardennes (from the back of vol. 5), it's pretty clear where they go after the events in Warsaw are over. Captain Günsche 11:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
About Alucard's name
If anyone is in any kind of doubt, it is Alucard. Not Arucard, Akkado, og anything else. This has been varified, if anyone has any doubt- check the Hellsing (manga) page. I'm writing this because earlier someone changed every mention of Alucard into Arucard so it's not unbased. :) --BiT 18:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
- Most people know that...but, a minor nitpick, his Japanese name is Ākādo...which is simply a sort of "slurred" transliteration of Alucard (compare with Arukādo). Schrödinger 20:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
- Another minor nitpick - the Japanese romaji transliteration doesn't matter. What matters was the intent of the author, and it is an obvious anagram of "Dracula." The only reason the names Akado or Arukado exist is because the Japanese language lacks the proper mechanizations to pronounce the name "Dracula" spelled backwards. Any debate on this issue is merely the fruitless endeavors of lame, obsessive otakus, and does not belong on Wikipedia. Brash 23:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- He said his name isn't "Akkado" (Ākādo), but it is - it's his Japanese name. I was merely pointing that out. You may not have noticed this but it's standard on Wikipedia to include the original native spelling of any foreign name or word - in the case of Japanese, they're given in English, katakana/kanji, and rōmaji. Schrödinger 03:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Another minor nitpick - the Japanese romaji transliteration doesn't matter. What matters was the intent of the author, and it is an obvious anagram of "Dracula." The only reason the names Akado or Arukado exist is because the Japanese language lacks the proper mechanizations to pronounce the name "Dracula" spelled backwards. Any debate on this issue is merely the fruitless endeavors of lame, obsessive otakus, and does not belong on Wikipedia. Brash 23:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
About Islands' name
Perhaps there should be some sort of standardization on all Hellsing Wikipedia articles, because this really bugs me. In almost all Wikipedia articles, Sir Hugh Irons' name is spelled "Islands." The official American adaptation of the manga uses the "Irons" spelling, so should we perhaps think about changing all relevant references on Wikipedia, including on this article. Brash 23:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's a mistranslation. アイランズ is transliterated as "islands". "Irons" in katakana would be either アイアンズ or アイロンズ. His name in the OVA II booklet is spelled Islands, and the English adaptations of both the TV and OVA series use Islands. Irons is incorrect. Schrödinger 02:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- The Dark Horse translations are of very poor quality. For example, they actually copied dialog from a scanlation. --Zenoseiya (talk) 23:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
She
I can't seem to find this picture of "her" anywhere on GENEON's site. Where is it? --BiT 22:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- It was removed months ago. It wasn't there for very long. Schrödinger 22:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- Gah! Forgot to put a new header.. ^.^ Anyways.. I sort of wanted to see that picture. --BiT 22:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, it's the exact same one you see in the end credits of OVA III. It isn't really an indication that The Dawn will be in IV, it was just an ad for OVA IV that poked fun at the character (it said something like "Sleep until IV is put on the streets"). The trailer for OVA IV was shown at Rondorobe 2007 on June 3 (hopefully it will be on the website soon) and the footage was material from volume 4 [1]. Rip's going to be on the standard edition cover as well (see the website). So at this point I really don't think there will be any Dawn material in OVA IV. Schrödinger 00:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Gah! Forgot to put a new header.. ^.^ Anyways.. I sort of wanted to see that picture. --BiT 22:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
"Likely"
Seeing as it's not really confirmed, as far as I know, shouldn't we change "it is likely The Dawn will be animated" to "it is rumored The Dawn will be animated"? Just because it's featured in the credits, doesn't mean it's part of the plan. It could be that the credits are the only way they'll show The Dawn. Don't get me wrong - I'd love it if The Dawn got it's own OVA(s), but we have to consider all possibilities until definate confirmation. --DameGreyWulf (talk) 22:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is true. I have absolutely no doubt that there will be a Dawn episode, but whenever anyone asks the producers about it, they're coy and vague. They're definitely gonna make it but they haven't officially confirmed it, so we should change it to "it is possible that The Dawn will be animated". Schrödinger (talk) 18:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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