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No history before 18th Century? Cherokee?

Every map I can find online, such as this one http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/histus.html or this one http://www.native-languages.org/kentucky.htm show the area that is now Henderson, Kentucky was part of Shawnee land, not Cherokee. Where is the citation to show that the native people did call the area "Red Banks" and that those people were Cherokee? Perhaps they were, instead, Shawnee - and therefore speaking one of the Algonquian languages? What was the word they supposedly used?

Also, there were people in this area before those of European descent. Angel Mounds is North of Henderson, across the Ohio River, less than 10 miles away as the crow flies. Angel Mounds was the site of a town constructed and occupied from 1100 CE to 1450 CE as one of the farthest northeastern expressions of the Mississippian culture. The Mississippian people abandoned the site long before European contact. The Wikipedia page for Evansville, Indiana, which is immediately across the river from Henderson, says there was a continuous human presence in the area that became Evansville from at least 8,000 BC by Paleo-Indians - but no citation for this info is given. The page also says that, following the abandonment of Angel Mounds between the years 1400 and 1450, tribes of Miami, Shawnee, Piankeshaw, Wyandot, Delaware and other Native American peoples were known to be in the area - but, again, no citation is given.

-User:Jcravens42 (talk) 20:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@Jcravens42: I'm not even going to pretend to be an expert on this subject, but I'll shed what little light I can on it. Henderson's entry in The Kentucky Encyclopedia says: "In the 1790s, the [Transylvania Company's] heirs established the town at an existing settlement known as Red Banks." So we have a reliable source giving the early name as Red Banks. Being from this general area of Kentucky, I know of at least one company there that still uses the name Red Banks as a nod to this early settlement. Now, who founded that settlement and how it came to be known as Red Banks, I don't know. I can perhaps do some more research on that at some point; however, the fact that the place was once known as Red Banks seems pretty well established.

As for the prominence of the Cherokee in this article, there was some time ago an editor who seemed rather fixated on the Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky and its connection to Henderson. There was a lengthy deletion discussion regarding the Nation's article in which some folks expressed skepticism about the Nation's legitimacy, but the article was ultimately kept. I make no pretense to understand the objections or the legitimacy or lack thereof of the Nation or their claims to Cherokee history in the region of Henderson. I mention this only to say that the Cherokee residency around Henderson has been... disputed in the past. Not sure if any of that was legitimately helpful or not. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 14:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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Information about slavery in Henderson added - and deleted

Someone deleted it with no information, and I can't figure out how to undo his edit. There is a significant lack of information about the Civil War and slavery in Henderson. I added information about slavery in Henderson, citing three different sources, with no explanation. I want to add it back. Here it is:

The 1800 county population was 1,468, according to the Second Census of Kentucky: 1,076 whites, 390 slaves, and 2 "free coloreds." In 1830 there was at least one slave owner in Henderson County, Liverpool Pointer. By 1860, the population was 8,495, according to the U.S. Federal Census, and excluding the slaves. In 1860 in Henderson, there were 993 slave owners, 5,046 people categorized as "black slaves", 726 classified as Mulatto slaves, 38 free black Americans, many with the last names Painter and Fisher, and 37 free people identified as Mulattoes, many with the last names Painter, Fisher, and Piner.. The narrative of Adah I. Suggs, a former enslaved person on the plantation of Colonel Jackson McClain and Louisa, his wife, tells the story of her escape with her mother, Harriet, into Evansville, Indiana in the 1860s:

A custom prevailed throughout the southern states that the first born of each slave maiden should be the son or daughter of her master and the girls were forced into maternity at puberty. The mothers naturally resisted this terrible practice and Harriott was determined to prevent her child being victimized... Under cover of night the two fugitives traveled the three miles to Henderson, there they secreted themselves under the house of Mrs. Margaret Bentley until darkness fell over the world to cover their retreat. Imagine the frightened negroes stealthily creeping through the woods in constant fear of being recaptured. Federal soldiers put them across the river at Henderson and from that point they cautiously advanced toward Evansville. The husband of Harriott, Milton McClain and her son Jerome were volunteers in a negro regiment. The operation of the Federal Statute providing for the enlistment of slaves made enlisted negroes free as well as their wives and children... When the refugees arrived in Evansville they were befriended by free negroes of the area. Harriott obtained a position as maid with the Parvine family.

-User:Jcravens42 (talk) 13:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, Jcravens42. I provided you an explanation in the edit summary in the form of a Wikilink to the relevant editing guideline, WP:WEIGHT. You added over 2700 characters of content to the subsection on the history of the 19th century on a single topic, slavery. This is an encyclopedia. We summarize published information to provide a neutral and balanced overview of the topic, which is Henderson, Kentucky; not slavery in Henderson, Kentucky. I'm not disputing the factuality of your addition, simply the volume. The sheer volume of your addition, coupled with the lack of other information on the 19th century, puts an undue emphasis on the subject of slavery. Cut it way down and I'm good with it. My suggestion would be to lose the quote and all the names. Really, how does adding names of non notable people increase the reader's understanding of the subject. This isn't a history thesis; it's an encyclopedia article. John from Idegon (talk) 18:58, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Annals and Scandals info also missing

There's no information from the book The Annals and Scandals of Henderson County, Kentucky, 1775-1975 here. Henderson was notorious in the 1930s in particular regarding gambling, liquor running and organized crime. Highway 41 runs through the town, and it was a regular stop for people on their way from Chicago to Miami and back.

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2020 Census data

Why is the 2020 census data missing? The demographic section needs updated with this data—will someone include this please? 2603:6010:79F0:1840:DD1B:7FDF:C8DE:37E0 (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)