Talk:Henderson Jordan

Apprehended? Captured?

These words are applied in the lead to the goings-on outside Gibsland, LA on 5/23/34. Were Barrow and Parker really "apprehended" or "captured?" Weren't they just, umm... dispatched? I wouldn't mind clarifying this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HarringtonSmith (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Also — there are several things attributed to Jordan's efforts that I've only ever seen attributed to Hamer's actions. These all seem to trace back to the cited FindingDulcinea.com [1] website's piece which has many errors and doesn't even mention Hamer. Anyone else uneasy about this? --HarringtonSmith (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Did a little more digging. Seems that FindingDulcinea.com got its information from a NY Times story from May 24, 1934, an interview with "Jordan" making all the claims usually attributed to Hamer. I suspect that the Times reporter got the story right but the name wrong. The quandary: do I charge the venerable Times with being wrong in the chaotic aftermath of the ambuscade? And do we adjust the article to fit what we know to be true?--HarringtonSmith (talk) 07:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OOPS! The "Jordan" story was not just a Times piece -- it was an Associated Press story that ran with Jordan's byline. It also ran in the Dallas Morning News. So... the Barrow posse was famously criss-crossed with personal agendae and conflicting recollections; maybe it's not so urgent to clean up Jordan's claims here. Thoughts anyone? --HarringtonSmith (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

9/03/09 Edit

Article implied that Hamer worked for Schmid, but only Alcorn and Hinton did; Hamer and Gault were commissioned by the Texas Highway Patrol, although both had been Texas Rangers. I left Jordan's claims of leadership intact, although I believe the operation was really Hamer's party, not Jordan's. I deleted the reference to Schmid, which was redlinked and really not important, and took the link off Henry Methvin because no Wikipedia page for him exists (although there is an interesting external website for him: http://www.tmethvin.com/henry/index.html ). It's also interesting reading all the different points of view in the Dallas Morning News the next morning; interestingly, Hamer is the least expansive: http://www.historybuff.com/archives/view.cgi/05-24-1934-01-f-tdmn —Preceding unsigned comment added by HarringtonSmith (talk • contribs) 13:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Why

would anyone refer to a Browning Automatic Rifle as a submachine gun? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.160.60.81 (talk) 00:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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