Talk:Hendre-Ddu Tramway

Don't rely on this article

Unfortunately almost every fact in this article is incorrect, even its title! Unsurprising, since it relies on sources (Boyd and Cozens) that have turned out to be unreliable. There is a forthcoming book that should provide a much more accurate and extensive history of the tramway on which to base an article. 86.8.22.13 (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Use of Baguley 774

I've been trying to find the (incorrect) reference to the use of the Baguley 774 petrol locomotive in Boyd's Narrow Gauge Railways in Mid Wales, but it doesn't seem to be there (unless I've missed it). However I have the revised 1970 edition. Has anyone got the original 1965 edition and can quote a page number? If not, I suggest the sentence about this is removed. — Voice of Clam (talk) 06:38, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

I can't see a mention of it in the 1965 edition. Could it be in the original 1952 edition ? RGCorris (talk) 18:02, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I think the 1965 edition is a straight reprint of the 1952 edition. Quine's book states that both Boyd and Cozens make the mistake, but I don't have a copy of Cozens to check. Looking back at the history of the article, it was originally an unsourced statement, so I think I'll remove it as it's not all that relevant anyway. — Voice of Clam (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

The 1965 edition of Boyd has an extended version of the 1952 entry on the Hendre-Ddu. In 1952 it took up most of four pages from p.137 to p.140, with a very basic sketch map; in 1965 this was expanded to just over six pages from p.277 to p.284 with a much more detailed map and a photo of the remains of the manumotive trolley taken by Boyd in 1946. No mention of the Baguley in either.

The 1965 edition was considerably enlarged compared to 1952 - for instance the Corris section grew from 26 pages in 1952 to 40 in 1965. The 1970 edition had numerous edits in the Corris section compared to 1965. RGCorris (talk) 12:11, 16 June 2023 (UTC)