Talk:Henriette Ith/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Averageuntitleduser (talk · contribs) 23:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm kind of in shock at how niche this is; I love it. I may need some help the Esperanto sources, but I should be good for the French ones. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Well-written

Ugh, she rocks, what an interesting read! I did a little copyedit, mainly to sentence structure and length. Here's what I got:

• There are some inconsistencies in the links; e.g. "Second World War" is linked in the article, but "First World War" is not linked in the lead, or "watchmakers" is linked in the article but not the lead. I would look over the article for this.
• Per MOS:GEOLINK, "La Chaux-de-Fonds, Neuchâtel" should just link to the smaller unit
• a socialist and political activist for social democracy — perhaps try: "a political activist for socialism", or just remove "a socialist"
• Ith was one of five children — repeated info
• as those she had experienced — "as those she had witnessed"?
• to its staff to ease communication ahead of the 1929 International Congress on Education — does this mean they had to use Esperanto at the conference? If this is the case, I suppose I would make it a bit more direct.
• for example for refusing to do military service — in context, this feels redundant, though you could move it beforehand to explain what a concious objector is.

Verifiable with no original research

In terms of reliability, I'm not seeing many red flags. Alcade, Cazals, and Garcia seem like prominent historians. Le Journal de Jura seems like a reasonable publication, and despite Sennaciulo being explicitly left-wing, it seems very well-researched and its bias hasn't come across in the article. No issues with copyvio. The sources are all in other languages and the article seems to combine or take liberties with them.

• One minor thing, Girard 2014 cites her death as November 12, would it be worth including both dates?

Spot-check

I received Garcia 2015 digitally via an interlibrary loan; I wasn't able to get Schneller, but considering the precedent you've set, I'm willing to assume good faith with its use.

• Girard, Jacques (7 July 2014). "L'incroyable vie d'Henriette Rémi" [The incredible life of Henriette Rémi]. Le Journal de Jura (in French): 9.
  • Looks good Y
• Cazals, Rémy (16 December 2016). "Rémi, Henriette (pseudonyme d'Henriette Wille) (1885-1978)" [Rémi, Henriette (pseudonym Henriette Wille)]. Dictionnaire et guide des témoins de la Grande Guerre, par le CRID 14–18. Retrieved 26 October 2023.
  • Looks good Y
• Garcia, Stéphane (2014). "Henriette Ith (1885–1978), Une militante aussi discrète qu'engagée" [Henriette Ith (1885–1978), an activist as discrete as committed]. Cahiers d'histoire du mouvement ouvrier (in French). No. 30. Lausanne: Association pour l'étude de l'histoire du mouvement ouvrier AÉHMO. pp. 44–50. doi:10.5169/seals-520287. ISSN 1424-0475. Retrieved 19 August 2023 – via E-Periodica.
  • Page 48 seems to only refer to his refusal to pay a "military tax", so I'd replace it with page 47. Looks good otherwise.
• Alcalde, Javier [in Esperanto] (2018). "Pacisma aliro" [A Pacifist Approach]. Aliroj al esperanto [Approaches to Esperanto] (in Esperanto). Prague: Kava-Pech. p. 19. ISBN 978-80-87169-86-5 – via HAL.
  • Looks good, but is this not page 18?
• Garcia, Stéphane (28 September 2015). "Henriette Rémi, une Suissesse face au visage inhumain de la guerre". La Suisse et la guerre de 1914-1918: actes du colloque tenu du 10 au 12 septembre 2014 au Château de Penthes [Henriette Rémi, a Swiss woman against the inhumane face of war] (in French). Colloque "La Suisse et la guerre de 1914–1918", Société d'histoire de la Suisse romande. Genève: Éditions Slatkine. pp. 107–115. ISBN 978-2-05-102745-8.
  • Looks good Y

Broad in its coverage

Looking at the other languages, Garcia seems to have written a preface and postface for Hommes sans visage, though I imagine it covers a lot of the same. And even still, the article is very extensive; no source is left behind and all are used fully.

Neutral

The opinions of Ith are all attributed. Her political beliefs are stated without promotion.

Stable

No recent content disputes or edit wars.

Illustrated

The portrait suffices and is correctly labeled as public domain.

Summary

Great work on a fascinating figure! Only a few comments to address!

I'll be putting this on hold for now. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

As @Frzzl: is busy with exams until June 27, I've taken the liberty of addressing these minor comments. I haven't touched the Sennaciulo source though, so I would still confirm the conference sentence and date of death. Otherwise, great work! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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